[PSUBS-MAILIST] data cable

Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Sun May 31 21:36:51 EDT 2020


That's what Dan Hycroft named his sub due to all the work that went into
it. I still don't have a name and am not going to paint my sub Yellow as
that is another question that everybody asks, gonna go with a blue or
green. When I see a particular project on the plans, I formulate an idea of
how much time it will take me but as all of you know, it really doesn't
work that way and I am a fabricator. For example, hanging my drop weights
took a lot longer than I thought it would. I think my answer for when I
will have it finished will be "when it's finished"

Rick

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 2:13 PM k6fee via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> Rick,
>
> A good friend started building a 40 steam powered yacht. Everyone kept
> asking when it would be done. He jokingly said " next weekend ". From then
> on the boat was referred to as "next weekend"....thirteen years later, it
> was finally launched as " Persistence ".
>
> Hope your project goes faster!
>
> Keith T.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> Date: 5/31/20 4:29 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] data cable
>
> Yeah I think sanding the PVC would be a must.
> I just finished the 2" channel that secures the main ballast tank on the
> front and back so now ready to weld on the L clips that attaches the
> channel to the fiberglass. It's kind of funny but anybody that sees or
> hears about this project always asked the same question,,,,,,When will it
> be done? I'll bet that that is a standard question for everyone on the list
> and my answer is always the same,,,,I don't know as I have never built one
> before!
>
> Rick
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 1:02 PM Alan via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>> Rick,
>> You use a heat gun on it to cause it to set. I am not sure whether it's
>> necessary or just speeds up the operation.
>> I may have sanded the PVC first can't quite remember!
>> Alan
>>
>> On 1/06/2020, at 10:03 AM, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thank Alan, I'll have a look at it. I know myself that PVC seems hard to
>> adhere to so if it does, it's darn good stuff! When you say heat activated,
>> do you apply heat to it to kick it off or it just creates heat on it's own
>> once mixed?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:51 AM Alan via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Rick,
>>> I don't exactly know!
>>> After googling & asking advice I bought a number of glues that were
>>> supposed to be good for glueing PVC.
>>> I did a number of glueing experiments & found I could peel the glue off
>>> the
>>> PVC with all products. I went to Lancer inflatables & asked them what
>>> they
>>> used on their PVC boats & they sold me unmarked cans of a two pot heat
>>> activated PVC adhesive. I think he said it was a 3M product.
>>> It was fantastic, the PVC would tear rather than the glue peeling off.
>>> Most wire jackets are PVC. I use PVC outside the hull & Teflon coated
>>> wire
>>> Which is more fire resistant inside.
>>> I looked at some professional rubber through hull fittings I had & saw
>>> that they
>>> had a thin layer of rubber vulcanised to about an inch up the jacket from
>>> where the head of the fitting was. I am copying this by coating the
>>> through hull
>>> & the jacket of the wire with the PVC glue.
>>> Doug Jackson did a series of videos on home made through hull fittings
>>> where
>>> he had failure after failure & this lead me to look in to it a bit more
>>> deeply.
>>> The water under pressure can squeeze between the insulation & wire, &
>>> the
>>> epoxy it is imbedded in, but with a layer of PVC glue over everything it
>>> can't.
>>> I had success first test at 2000psi.
>>> This looks a good product.
>>> https://www.nrs.com/repair/stabond.asp
>>> Any product they use on PVC inflatables should be good as it is water
>>> resistant
>>> as well as developed for PVC.
>>> Cheers Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 31/05/2020, at 10:47 AM, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <
>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> What is the name of that glue you use and where can i get it?
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 7:43 PM Alan via Personal_Submersibles <
>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Brian,
>>>> I cover the insulation on the wires & the potting material with a PVC
>>>> glue
>>>> up to an inch from where it is potted. I use a 2 pot heat activated PVC
>>>> glue
>>>> that will tear the PVC before it peals off.
>>>> Reason for this is water can force down between the PVC & the potting
>>>> material.
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> On 30/05/2020, at 4:38 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
>>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,  or maybe just tin the wires with solder .  But I"ll look for
>>>> solid .
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <
>>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>>> To: Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
>>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] data cable
>>>> Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 01:24:15 +0000 (UTC)
>>>>
>>>> Brian, it the strands are solid core, you can strip off the insulation
>>>> and then pot.  If the strands are multi wire then cut and sold in a section
>>>> of solid wire to pot.
>>>> Hank
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, May 29, 2020, 7:01:08 PM MDT, Brian Cox via
>>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>             What would be the best way for me to pot a cat5 ethernet
>>>> cable?    Would the insulation need to be removed?
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>>
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