[PSUBS-MAILIST] 2020 Psub Convention

Sun Feb 16 15:29:43 EST 2020

Hi everyone,

Regarding the Innerspace expedition, we are in the early planning stages
and don't have a date yet but should soon. It's an exploration of Sebago
Lake in Maine, in collaboration with St Joseph's College which is local. We
have a conference call scheduled for this coming Tuesday at which we expect
to receive formally documented science objectives, and next up in the
planning process will be to pick dates. The subs in attendance are planned
to be Harold and Shackleton (i.e. Brian Hughes and myself). I have a fairly
complicated year as I am also on the Pisces team and if Pisces dates
change, my availability changes too. But that is why we have two subs
planned. As the first step in getting ready, we are also planning two or
three days of sea trials and depth tests early in the season. This will be
the week of May 15th at Summersville Lake in WV and we plan to have three
subs there - the above two plus Steve McQueen's K250 going in the water for
the first time. The Summersville location probably doesn't lend itself for
presentations, and we're going to have a really crammed agenda trying to
depth test three subs in a couple of days. Sebago Lake is probably good for
that and we could add a day or two of presentations to the schedule. That
said, it's always been a good idea to have a PSUBS member who is local take
the lead organizing conventions. Also I know from the past two Innerspace
trips that the sub owners will be utterly tied up with sub logistics, field
repairs, etc. and trying to have them organize or run a convention on the
side doesn't seem like a wise choice. Bottom line... I would suggest that
those wanting to see subs dive come join us in Maine, but if it were me I'd
organize a separate presentation-style convention. I agree there have been
a lot of developments that would make for good presentations.

I nominate Brian to organize a presentation convention in Annapolis. He'd
be good at it. It's sort of half way between those coming from North or
South. Between Mark, Brian, and myself we have four or five subs for people
to look at, and can even dive a bit at Mark's even though it isn't
wonderful clear water. That's right Brian, I just volunteered you!!!

:)

Alec

On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 12:15 PM Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> I kind of hate to think of putting it off another year.  There are a
> number of options, one being we move the diving location this year to a
> more central point in the country.  Another being that we combine it with
> the Maine expedition, if that expedition actually occurs.  I haven't seen
> any update on it, or potential dates.  But our convention date is
> flexible.  And a third option is to just have technical presentations.
> Technical conventions were all we had for years and seemed to work ok.  One
> benefit with them is that they can just be a weekend event instead of a
> week-long event.  As much as I enjoy the diving part of a convention, they
> are much more difficult to plan and execute, and it's also difficult to
> incorporate everyone into the actual dive unless it is close to shore.
>
> So, pros/cons with both.  I think Carsten has the right idea, technical
> presentations for all but limit the diving to a core group of people.  In
> any event, I would want you (Cliff) and Hank as primary presenters for past
> expeditions.  David Colombo, Alec, Brian, Hank and myself for project
> presenters.  And that's not to exclude anyone else, I just don't know
> everyone that is working on a project that might be able to share their
> story.  Maybe Scott, Steve or Vance could tell us about their experience
> with the Pisces project.  It seems like we're at a point where there is a
> lot of information to share and if we had a technical only convention it
> could work well.
>
> Cliff, Hank, David, Alec, Brian, Scott, Steve, Vance,...anyone else that
> might want to share a topic, what's your availability for May, June, July,
> Sept, Oct?  What about setting a recurring date for our US Psubs
> conventions so we always know when they will occur and can plan other
> events around it.
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 16, 2020, 10:31:57 AM EST, Cliff Redus via
> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>
> Jon, with a 2020 Islamorada event, it would make three psub events this
> year: 1) 2020 Islamorda Psub convention, 2) Rostock Germany SubSeaSail
> European PSub event and 3) probably an InnerspaceScience.org expedition in
> Maine.  Granted not all will attend all three events but some like me might
> want to.  I am not sure how many would come to PSub convention with no
> diving event around a submersible.  As an alternative, I would like to see
> us put off the Islamorada convention into 2021.  By that time the Suhr's
> hopefully would be in a position to be able let us use there home in
> Islamorada  as base station, you should be at a point with your new boat
> to bring it for sea trials and we could also include the technical
> presentations you mention.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Cliff
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> Cliff
>
> On Sunday, February 16, 2020, 07:57:57 AM CST, Jon Wallace via
> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>
> We can build it sufficiently around the European event, that's not an
> issue.  Maybe end of June?  Or October.
>
> Jon
>
>
> On Saturday, February 15, 2020, 08:10:01 PM EST, Steve McQueen via
> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>
> Jon, Thanks for the update. Here is my input : )
>
> A non-diving convention (tech presentations & social activities) would
> still have value in my opinion. Seems like there have been several diving
> opportunities in the past few years but not so much on the technical
> presentation front.
>
> I am interested in attending.  Let me know how I can assist.
>
> also, I (maybe others?) am planning on attending the European convention
> this year so it would be nice if the dates didn't conflict.
>
> Steve
>
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> On February 15, 2020, at 7:46 PM, Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, we should have one this year.
>
> This has been on my mind so a good nudge to get us discussing it.  Last
> summer Cliff and I had started talking about another convention in the
> Keys.  With two expeditions completed and a number of projects coming to
> term there is a lot of information we can sure.  However, we are highly
> dependent upon the Suhrs for diving purposes in the Keys and were notified
> in October that unforeseen circumstances would prevent them from being in
> the Keys for most of the year.
>
> We could have a non-diving convention with static displays here in the
> Keys (or somewhere else), or try to set up a diving convention at another
> location.  For sure, we have plenty of material for at least one day of
> technical presentations.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Jon
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