<div dir="ltr"><div>Ben Franklin is a really interesting submarine. It's amazing that Grumman had the time and people available to build it when they were fully into getting the Apollo Lunar Module flying.</div><div><br></div><div>It sure would be a great submersible yacht.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 11, 2026 at 10:05 PM Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div>Why has no one collected interviews with those involved in
such work? For example. the captain of the<em> Aluminaut</em>
is still with us, as far as I know. I have asked the
university students living near me about <em>Ben Franklin,</em>
<em>Aluminaut,</em> and <em>Alvin</em>, and they give me a
blank look. (The <em>Aluminaut</em> is at the Virginia
Science Museum, the last I heard about it.)<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the notification Mike. At the
2009 convention in Vancouver we visited the Ben Franklin
at the museum and the curator opened it up to let us peek
inside.</div>
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<div> On Friday, July 10, 2026 at 09:18:51 PM EDT, Michael
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<div> In <i>Naval History</i>, August 2026, there's a
note that the captain of the <i>Ben Franklin</i>,
Don Kazimir, "slipped his final moorings" at the age
of 91. He had retired to North Palm Beach, Florida.<br>
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The submarine is now in the Vancouver Maritime
Museum.<br>
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