<div dir="ltr"><div>Anecdotal divergence of thread:</div><div><br></div><div>I licensed my sub for the Bellingham PSubs conference so that I wouldn't have any potential issues crossing the Canada - US border. I had no problems crossing south or north that day. Since it has less than 10hp there is no requirement to be licensed or registered in Canada. But several US states don't allow unregistered - unlicensed vessels (even canoes) to operate in state waters. Better to be safe.</div><div><br></div><div>Couriously, Nuytco had a problem bringing two DeepWorker 2000's home from the NASA/CSA project in Florida several years ago. US Customs seized them northbound because the shipper's paperwork incorrectly stated them as certified to a depth of 2000 metres, not their actual 2000 feet. Apparently, 3000m certified submersibles are technology not allowed to leave the US, even though these vehicles were manufactured and owned in Canada. It took several months before Nuytco could repatriate their property.</div><div><br></div><div>Attached are a couple photos of some young people who purchased a Curtis wet sub in Port Townsend, WA and brought it home to San Diego, CA. They refurbished it, tested it in their swimming pool, and took it to a local beach to test. The USCG noticed them, and told them that since they were California residents they could not operate an out of state vessel in California. So being young and energetic, they just took it south a few miles to Mexico to complete their tests. They subsequently re-registered it in California and continued their adventures.</div><div><br></div><div>Tim</div><div><br></div><div>Tim</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 20, 2025 at 8:01 AM hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi All, I just asked transport Canada to register my diesel sub, and they sent me the forms as if it is a boat. Seems like it will be quite simple. I want to register it ahead of any changes so I can grandfather it in. <br>
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> On Aug 15, 2025, at 5:18 PM, Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> This is the most relevant thing I could find from the Canadian angle:<br>
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> <a href="https://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/securite-safety/marine/2024/m23a0169/m23a0169-01-24.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/securite-safety/marine/2024/m23a0169/m23a0169-01-24.html</a><br>
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> I wonder if there is merit in reaching out to Transport Canada in a similar manner as you did to the USCG? Perhaps just looping the director in on your email exchange with USCG with a request for parallel comment?<br>
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>> Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] USCG Marine Investigation Report and Ramifications<br>
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>> Von: "Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
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>> Psubbers, I sent an email to the US Coast Guard yesterday and received their response today; see below. They got our name wrong but in fairness when I wrote my letter I misspelled theirs as well. :) I hope when you absorb how the USCG views our organization you feel some pride in the contributions you have made to make PSUBS a successful and respected organization. ENJOY!<br>
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>> Thank you for your email outlining the aims of the Professional Submersible Boat Society (PSUBS). My name is LCDR Tom Whalen, and I am the Lead Investigator for the TITAN investigation. We have received your request for collaboration with the US Coast Guard and appreciate you reaching out. The US Coast Guard greatly respects the invaluable work and expertise of organizations like PSUBS. Your dedication to professionalism, safety, and responsible operation within the submersible industry is truly commendable. We recognize PSUBS as a leading voice and an essential partner in shaping the future of this critical sector. While historically the USCG has been more focused on the commercial aspects of submersible operations, we are committed to expanding our understanding and oversight to encompass all facets of the industry, and we see extreme value in your organization's contributions to achieving this goal. We are eager to establish a productive and collaborative working relationship with your group, and as such, we will actively advocate for PSUBS representation in any future submersible industry working groups related to rules and regulations. We believe that your members' firsthand experience and specialized knowledge are vital for developing effective and practical regulations that enhance safety without hindering innovation. Furthermore, we are committed to ensuring USCG representation at future PSUBS conventions. These events provide an invaluable opportunity for us to directly engage with your members, learn from their experiences, and foster a strong working relationship built on mutual understanding and respect. To further discuss the specifics of our future collaboration and how we can best facilitate these interactions, I would like to schedule a telephone call at your earliest convenience. Please let me know what time and day works best for you. The US Coast Guard is committed to a transparent and collaborative approach in our oversight of the submersible industry. We recognize that your expertise is essential to this process, and we value the opportunity to work alongside PSUBS to promote the highest standards of safety and responsible operation. We look forward to ongoing dialogue and collaboration.<br>
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