<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Jon, I've run some preliminary tests and the results are interesting. I'm going to rerun and try to document in better detail and frequencies. <br></div><div>Here's my observations. To save me typing Topside unit =TS and Diver unit= DU. Ran the tests with the TU both sitting on my external fiberglass deck with the Transducer from the TU placed adjacent to my builtin transducer located externally at the rear of the hatch. Both Transducer cables are mfg full 25' cables with no cuts. Both TU and DU are on their own battery power. The DU is located on the starboard side, held with magnets onto the original VBT tank. Both Port and Starboard VBT have been cut open with a 16"x14" opening. Inside each of the VBT are located one PWM from MinnKota wired to the cutoff selector switch and then to the LiPo4 36v battery bank. Currently I have both the Minnkota speed selector switches adjacent to each other so they can lay over my knee to run the test. The DU is attached to my headset with channel set to 1, transmit: PUT, squelch on. The TU was sitting on my feet inside the sub, speaker on, and I set the TU to the same settings except the squelch was set to off on the rotation dial. The TU is about 30" from either PWM. With this setup I can hear my DU headset and the TU speaker at the same time.</div><div>Test 1 with my DU only. Run each of the 4 channels through a series of starting out with one thruster and slowly running the speed scale in forward and then in reverse.</div><div>Test 2 same test with both thrusters on and running the speed scale. <br></div><div>Test 3 and 4 same test with the TU only</div><div>Test 5 run both thrusters and both TU and DU.</div><div>Note the DU is sitting closer to the PWM than the TU. TU is in its TU ABS case, with no additional shielding The thruster control cables are the mfg cables and I believe there is no shielding. <br></div><div>Before I ran tests 1-5, I did a 6th test with the transducer of the TU into the sub and placed it near the PWM units, and then again adjacent to the thruster speed control wires. <br></div><div><br></div><div>In Test 6,I found considerable frequency oscillation adjacent to the speed cable and less at the PWM units ( the PW units are incased in the mfg aluminum finned sealed case) all for channels (squelch off) I used this as a comparative baseline against the DU to see if Transducer proximity to the PWM made a difference and Initially I believe it does. <br></div><div><br></div><div>So here are my observations:</div><div>Test 1 & 2 DU: sometimes on start-up of a thruster I might get a short squelch burst and then no thruster noise for the rest of the speed scale. I believe that the DU which only has squelch on or off, is automatically compensating on all 4 channels, hence the reason I'm not getting any speed controller noise. No difference between test 1 & 2</div><div><br></div><div>Test 3 &4 TU: on all four channels with squelch off, there is a high frequency tone, each different on the 4 channels and when on test 4 with both thrusters double the db of the frequency tone. No difference if I ran one thruster forwards and one in reverse at the same time.</div><div><br></div><div>Here is the interesting part: on each of the 4 channels there is a point on the squelch dial where you can eliminate the tone. approximately 25% on channel 1, 50 % on channel 2, 75% channel 3 and 100% on channel 4. So if I am using channel 1, preset the squelch to 25% +/- and you're good to go, same with the other channels. The other interesting thing is the proximity of the TU to the PWM. Outside the hull and about 3ft away from the PWM the intensity of the Tonal variation is substantially less, which might imply that additional shielding around the electronics of the TU could improve the reduction of the tonal frequencies. </div><div>As I am planning to place the TU in the sub into one of the VBT with 1/2" thick steel on three sides, I'm hoping that will be enough shielding, only time will tell. Also I'm going to add some additional shielding on the thruster speed control wires based upon the test results of test 6.</div><div>When I rerun the test, I will data log the frequency of each channel and try to calibrate the squelch position for the TU.</div><div>Any thoughts on how best to filter out frequency noise besides the squelch? Anyway these are my current observations and I hope they give some insight into how to solve your problem.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Best Regards,<br>David Colombo<br><img src="http://static.squarespace.com/static/533310a9e4b0fba62008a464/t/5339c1f2e4b041bac4e25d1b/1396294132055/?format=500w" height="110" width="200"><br>804 College Ave<br>Santa Rosa, CA. 95404<br>(707) 536-1424<br><a href="http://www.SeaQuestor.com" target="_blank">www.SeaQuestor.com</a><br><br></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 12:43 AM Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">You could make clothing out of that Faraday fabric and make a million selling it to our life cal Green community.<div>Alan<br><br><div id="m_1491520191567345675ymail_android_signature"><a id="m_1491520191567345675ymail_android_signature_link" href="https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_315_SearchOrgConquer_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002039&af_sub5=C01_Email_Static_&af_ios_store_cpp=0c38e4b0-a27e-40f9-a211-f4e2de32ab91&af_android_url=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yahoo.mobile.client.android.mail&listing=search_organize_conquer" target="_blank">Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer</a></div> <br> <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 20px"> <div style="font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:rgb(109,0,246)"> <div>On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 at 1:04 pm, Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles</div><div><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:</div> </div> <div style="padding:10px 0px 0px 20px;margin:10px 0px 0px;border-left:1px solid rgb(109,0,246)"> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"> </div> </blockquote></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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