<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>Rick,</div><div>they will come in all sorts of sizes, & you can always add lead.</div><div>With the added power you could run an Airconditioner which would be a</div><div>real benefit in Hawaii. </div><div>Anyway we'll see how this plays out. They are doing trials on electric vehicles this year.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br></div><div><br>On 10/03/2020, at 5:23 PM, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I know that battery technology has come a long ways since Ketteredge designed the K-350 but unfortunately I am kind of stuck with the size and weight of the 12 volt wet cell battery due to the size of the battery pods and the weight of the battery's he used to come up with the balance and trim of the sub etc. If these new batteries were similar in size and weight, that would be awesome but I doubt they will be. Thanks for the thought though.<div>Rick</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 12:26 PM Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div></div><div>Rick,</div><div>depending on where you are at with your build you may want to factor in</div><div>new upcoming battery technology.</div><div>The lithium sulphur battery has 4-5 times the energy density of a lithium iron</div><div>battery & will be much cheaper. So you would go 20 times further on them than</div><div>with your lead acid batteries. </div><div>The energy density has been proven for years but there has been a problematic</div><div>degrading of the cathode due to gunk ( polysulphides) building up on them, that</div><div>results in a low number of charging cycles. </div><div>A large number of universities & corporations World wide have been spending billions</div><div>on research to overcome this problem & it looks like Monash University in Australia</div><div>has an answer. They say they will be in production in 2 years.</div><div>So you may want to buy cheap lead acids & a cheap charger now with view to</div><div>upgrading when the lithium sulphur batteries hit the market. They require a balance</div><div>charger that monitors individual cels.</div><div>Alan</div><div><a href="https://www.downtoearth.org.in/video/energy/world-s-most-efficient-lithium-sulphur-battery-developed-in-australia-68702" target="_blank">https://www.downtoearth.org.in/video/energy/world-s-most-efficient-lithium-sulphur-battery-developed-in-australia-68702</a></div><div><br></div><div><br>On 10/03/2020, at 10:04 AM, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks Cliff for the data. I'll check out what you sent and also just wanted some feedback from those on the site as to what they are using for the type of battery's they have and how they like them which you have done.<div>I'll also reach out to the battery manufacturer that I pick to ask them about the proper charging rates recommended for that particular battery. I guess my main concern is that the charger that I pick knows when to shut off and turn back on so I don't ruin the battery's. </div><div>I learned the hard way by buying a charger that didn't know to shut off and I ruined the batteries on my sailboat.</div><div>Rick<br><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:13 AM Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"></div>
<div dir="ltr">I have used Zivan EV battery chargers for 15 years on the R300. When the boat drive train included a jet ski motor with impeller, I used the Zivan NG3 model NG3-120-18 to charge the 120VDC nominal AGM main battery. When I switch over to Minn Kota 101 trolling motors, the main battery bus voltage was reduced to 36VDC nominal and I switched to a Zivan NG3 model NG3-36-60. In both cases, the battery charger was installed within the pressure hull so that I could easily recharge. I have been very happy with these chargers and never had a failure. See <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><a href="http://www.zivanusa.com/NG3BatteryCharger.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Zivan NG3 Battery Charger</a></span><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div id="gmail-m_-7064692442155337803gmail-m_-4420644925598900716ydp6bf16bdbenhancr_card_4766604976" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;max-width:400px"><a href="http://www.zivanusa.com/NG3BatteryCharger.htm" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="max-width:400px"><tbody><tr><td width="400"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224,228,233);border-radius:2px"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#000000" valign="top" height="175" style="background-color:rgb(0,0,0);background-size:cover;border-radius:2px 2px 0px 0px;min-height:175px"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="width:100%"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="transparent" valign="top" style="background-color:transparent;border-radius:2px 2px 0px 0px;min-height:175px"><table border="0" height="175" style="width:100%;min-height:175px"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align:left;padding:15px 0px 0px 15px;vertical-align:top"></td><td style="text-align:right;padding:15px 15px 0px 0px;vertical-align:top"><div></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:rgb(255,255,255);width:100%;max-width:400px;border-radius:0px 0px 2px 2px;border-top:1px solid rgb(224,228,233)"><tbody><tr><td style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);padding:16px 0px 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;border-radius:0px 0px 0px 2px"></td><td style="vertical-align:middle;padding:12px 24px 16px 12px;width:99%;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;border-radius:0px 0px 2px"><h2 style="font-size:14px;line-height:19px;margin:0px 0px 6px;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);max-width:314px">Zivan NG3 Battery Charger</h2><p style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px;margin:0px;color:rgb(151,155,167)">Fireworks Splice HTML</p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a><div style="width:100%;height:100%;display:flex;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0.3)"><div><div><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"> for more info.</div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px">When you order these units, supplier will need to know the type (lead, AGM, gel) and nominal voltage of the battery you are charging to set specific parameters on the charger to match your battery bank. On both chargers, I purchased the optional thermal sensor as these chargers charge at different rate depending on temperature. See <span><a href="http://www.zivanusa.com/ChargeCurve.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Zivan Charge Curves</a></span><div><br></div><div id="gmail-m_-7064692442155337803gmail-m_-4420644925598900716ydpa01f49ccenhancr_card_4520413841" style="max-width:400px;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.zivanusa.com/ChargeCurve.htm" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="max-width:400px"><tbody><tr><td width="400"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224,228,233);border-radius:2px"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#000000" valign="top" height="175" style="background-color:rgb(0,0,0);background-size:cover;border-radius:2px 2px 0px 0px;min-height:175px"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="width:100%"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="transparent" valign="top" style="background-color:transparent;border-radius:2px 2px 0px 0px;min-height:175px"><table border="0" height="175" style="width:100%;min-height:175px"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align:left;padding:15px 0px 0px 15px;vertical-align:top"></td><td style="text-align:right;padding:15px 15px 0px 0px;vertical-align:top"><div></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td><table border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:rgb(255,255,255);width:100%;max-width:400px;border-radius:0px 0px 2px 2px;border-top:1px solid rgb(224,228,233)"><tbody><tr><td style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);padding:16px 0px 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;border-radius:0px 0px 0px 2px"></td><td style="vertical-align:middle;padding:12px 24px 16px 12px;width:99%;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;border-radius:0px 0px 2px"><h2 style="font-size:14px;line-height:19px;margin:0px 0px 6px;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);max-width:314px">Zivan Charge Curves</h2><p style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px;margin:0px;color:rgb(151,155,167)">Fireworks Splice HTML</p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div><div dir="ltr"> for the three charge phases.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">They are a bit pricey but can be found on Ebay often.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">If you are into PLCs, these units have an optional interface for monitoring the charge. If you are not into PLCs, then you can just connect the charger to the battery bank and plug it in to an AC source and monitor the charge manually either through a remote display or the display on the unit itself.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I am not arguing that this charger is better or worse than other heavy duty charger, it is just the one that I have the had the most experience with.</div><div><br></div></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"> <br></div></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px">Cliff</div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br></div>
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On Sunday, March 8, 2020, 03:17:42 PM CDT, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="gmail-m_-7064692442155337803gmail-m_-4420644925598900716ydp63fc4e29yiv6577123555"><div><div dir="ltr">Hey guys, any other feed back on what you use for a battery charger for 12 or 36 volts, Sean, whats your input?<div>Rick</div></div><br clear="none"><div><div id="gmail-m_-7064692442155337803gmail-m_-4420644925598900716ydp63fc4e29yiv6577123555yqt15071"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 9:48 AM Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font size="2">Alan, According to the specs an my batteries is shows a low voltage of 5 volts . But better battery life if discharged less than 50 % </font><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2"><a shape="rect" href="https://resources.fullriverbattery.com/fullriver-battery/external-media/spec-sheets/DC220-6.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://resources.fullriverbattery.com/fullriver-battery/external-media/spec-sheets/DC220-6.pdf</a> </font></div><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2">Brian</font></div><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">--- <a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">From: Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)</span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 21:29:48 +1300</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="font-size:10pt"></div><div style="font-size:10pt">Brian,</div><div style="font-size:10pt">It is recommended not to take lead acid batteries below 50% charge, or 12.2V.</div><div style="font-size:10pt">So 48.8V.</div><div style="font-size:10pt">However when you have a heavy load on them they indicate a lower voltage than</div><div style="font-size:10pt">what they will be if you stop the motor & let them recover.</div><div style="font-size:10pt">Alan</div><div style="font-size:10pt"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:10pt"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:10pt"> </div><div style="font-size:10pt"><br clear="none">On 8/03/2020, at 7:04 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="font-size:10pt"><div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font size="2">David, yes I'm running off my batteries, they are AGM, I have eight 240 ah batteries. I'm not sure how low I can go with the voltage, I believe the storage indicator has a low limit where it would read zero, but I'm pretty sure the motors will run on 36 volts, there is most likely a recommended low voltage for the 12 volt batteries. I ran them for 6 hours and the storage indicator was telling me 40% full. Voltage was 44.3 </font><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2">Rick, this is the battery charger I have: <a shape="rect" href="https://www.batterypete.com/chargers/golf-carts/delta-q-quiq-48-volt-18-amp-912-4800/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAqY3zBRDQARIsAJeCVxP7pOTpKjANY_Z4leDJMXsag_kgsFsDIKImLms-Qd7CIh43hEoq7_oaAruDEALw_wcB" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.batterypete.com/chargers/golf-carts/delta-q-quiq-48-volt-18-amp-912-4800/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAqY3zBRDQARIsAJeCVxP7pOTpKjANY_Z4leDJMXsag_kgsFsDIKImLms-Qd7CIh43hEoq7_oaAruDEALw_wcB</a><br clear="none"></font><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2">Brian</font></div><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2"> </font><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">--- <a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">From: David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)</span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 21:02:11 -0800</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="font-size:10pt">Brian, are you running them from your actual batteries? Are they deep cycle lead AGM, or LIPO4? What's the cut off voltage?<div>David</div></div><br clear="none"><div style="font-size:10pt"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 7:58 PM Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font size="2">It's been 4 hours now and my voltage is at 46.44 volts</font><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2">Brian</font></div><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">--- <a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">From: Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)</span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 15:48:43 +1300</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="font-size:10pt"><span></span></div><div style="font-size:10pt"><div></div><div>Hi Brian,</div><div>3hp is 2,200W, so 500W with no load seems excessively high.</div><div>Just measured mine & it's .9Amps (900mAh) for a 1500W compensated motor running in a 5cst silicone oil. Running off 48V also. So under 49W.</div><div>I think you have a large prop on your motors. I just saw your gearing ratio, but the</div><div>loss shouldn't be that much.</div><div>I would test them individually in case one is at fault.</div><div>Cheers Alan</div><div><br clear="none">On 8/03/2020, at 2:54 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote><div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Alan, They are 3 hp golf cart motors, true there is no load but If I kept the same amp draw while actually at sea then it seems it would be equivalent. Under actual conditions it would probably be going very slowly while drawing 21 amps ( 10.5 amps per motor ) . </font></font><div><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">Brian</font></div><div><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><br clear="none"></font><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">--- <a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">From: Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)</span><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 14:21:54 +1300</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"></div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Brian,</div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">I take it that there is no load on the motor!</div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">That seems a high power consumption, 500 Watts per motor.</div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Have you got the specs for those motors? Have you checked them individually?</div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Alan</div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br clear="none">On 8/03/2020, at 1:26 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">There are some times when 110 vac could be needed, like computer stuff. Just a thought, we can have an open mind on the subject ! </font></font><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><br clear="none"></font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><br clear="none"></font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"> Right now I'm running my motors to see how long they'll go. It's a kind of cool rainy day so the temperature is close to what the ocean would be . I've got the oil expansion tube going into a bucket so I can get an idea how large of a reservoir I will need to take care of the expansion. I think I'm going to opt for just a reservoir on the motor side and then I'm running a hose up high and then back down to take care of the compression up the tube for when I submerge. Since most of the compression of air will occur in the first 30' the water should never get high enough ( in the tube) to go over the hump and get</font></font><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"> into the motor compartment. So the whole system will be open . I'm also monitoring Voltage , Amp draw, and , Watts </span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"> 48 volts 21 amps 1030 watts - two motors running .</span></div><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><br clear="none"></font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"> </font></font></div><div><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">Brian</font></div><div><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"> </font></div><div><font face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><br clear="none"></font><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">--- <a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">To: Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)</span><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 00:06:47 +0000 (UTC)</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">Why complicate a simple solution? this works great! Bad Brian!</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Hank</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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<div><div><div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font size="2">There are a lot of 110AC led's out there , it would be a simple matter to run a DC inverter to make 110ac voltage , I wonder if there would be any advantage to that, there might be some better quality led's that are made for AC voltage, Any thoughts on that?</font><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2">Brian</font></div><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">--- <a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)</span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt">Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 16:30:26 +0000 (UTC)</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><div style="font-size:13px"><div dir="ltr"><span><a shape="rect" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHDUilUO6P8" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> 15:13
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