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<div>Alan,</div><div>I am making solenoid vent valves and immersing the entire valve in oil with a compensation bladder. I used them on my salvage ROV that did thousands of cycles without anything done to them. I need two on Gamma and two on E3000</div><div>Hank</div><div><br></div>
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On Sunday, October 28, 2018, 1:57:10 PM MDT, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv8564720269"><div><div></div><div>Hank,</div><div>I would need to put a seal on the plunger & as the plunger goes</div><div>in & out it would be displacing oil, so have the same problems as with</div><div>linear actuators. As the plunger has to be a material that can be</div><div>magnetised it is vulnerable to corrosion, so I will have to coat it in</div><div>resin anyway. It is just a matter of putting the plunger on the lathe</div><div>& taking off enough metal to make room for the resin. </div><div>I made a solenoid valve years ago. It was 60W & got hot really fast.</div><div>I have ordered a 48V & 24V solenoid mainly to see how hot they</div><div>get, how strong they are, what gauge wire they are using & how many</div><div>turns. If neither is suitable at least I will get some ideas for building one.</div><div>I have been inspired by those little open waterproofed motors I bought.</div><div>What were you going to use the solenoids for? If you want I will keep</div><div>you up to date with what I am doing, but the solenoids will take about</div><div>2 weeks to get here.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8564720269yqt8395275534" id="yiv8564720269yqt39899"><div><br clear="none">On 29/10/2018, at 8:29 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="yiv8564720269ydp673e4880yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
<div>Alan,</div><div>Why don't you just make a housing for the solenoids and oil fill. That is one of my first projects when I get back to the sub.</div><div>Hank</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Sunday, October 28, 2018, 12:46:29 PM MDT, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv8564720269"><div><div></div><div>Hank,</div><div>yes just making fun of you! It's an old English saying! </div><div>Thanks Alec, I see I have already "liked" them. Nice piece of work.</div><div>You guys got me inspired & I ordered a couple of solenoids to modify Vance's</div><div>mushroom valve design & make it electric. I will have to waterproof the solenoids,</div><div>which will involve machining the plunger so I can coat it & it's iron tube</div><div>receptacle with resin.</div><div>The force varies depending on how far out the plunger is & on one I</div><div>ordered it varied between 1 & 10kg; unfortunately I'll get a reduction in force</div><div>after coating everything with resin. I am not sure how much spring force I should </div><div>need to close it yet.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div> </div><div class="yiv8564720269yqt6882171366" id="yiv8564720269yqt40590"><div><br clear="none">On 29/10/2018, at 6:49 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="yiv8564720269ydp24089625yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
<div>Have you guys never heard the saying "on pins and needles" or are you just making fun of me </div><div>Hank</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Sunday, October 28, 2018, 8:33:01 AM MDT, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv8564720269"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Yeah, I'm not sure what Hank was talking about concerning piss and needles, it doesn't sound good at all. But Alan, scroll down on this page and you'll see the valves...<div><br clear="none"></div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/pg/INNERSPACESCIENCE/posts/">https://www.facebook.com/pg/INNERSPACESCIENCE/posts/</a><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8564720269gmail_quote"><div class="yiv8564720269yqt1412448662" id="yiv8564720269yqt66809"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 10:29 PM Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="yiv8564720269gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div></div><div>Hank,</div><div>glad you clarified that, it read like you were an alcoholic & junky.</div><div>What valves were they? I haven't received any posts lately &</div><div>were wondering if I had missed some.</div><div>Alan </div><div> </div><div><br clear="none">On 28/10/2018, at 1:20 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="yiv8564720269m_97519995167016728ydp8f7d0dd3yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
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<div><div id="yiv8564720269m_97519995167016728yiv9191911722"><div><div>Alec,</div><div>I am on pis and needles waiting to hear about your new valves and how they perform. Have you tested them?</div><div>Hank</div><div class="yiv8564720269m_97519995167016728yiv9191911722ydp928edd70yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div>
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