<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>Hugh,</div><div>it seemed simple to begin with!</div><div>I still feel the concept of using an outrunner motor is good because</div><div>of the high torque that eliminates the need for a gearbox.</div><div>Heat is definitely the big enemy of these small motors & I found they</div><div>can maintain temperature in oil running them at close to 2hp.</div><div>That's in a bucket of oil! </div><div>There are people using them oil compensated in underwater linear</div><div>actuators & they expound the virtues of being able to get a lot of power</div><div>from a small package using these motors.</div><div>I am nearly there!</div><div>Alan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>On 5/10/2018, at 1:40 PM, Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What comes to mind is the old biblical proverb.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Saul, Saul, why kickest thou against the pricks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You’re a tiger for punishment. But I guess learning always comes at a price.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">At least it is interesting and we are having fun.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers, Hugh<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Personal_Submersibles [<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 5 October 2018 12:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> Alan via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] eRe: Alan's new motor<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif"">Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif"">If it was easy,,, well you know <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif"">Hank<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_9280246792"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">On Thursday, October 4, 2018, 5:44:22 PM MDT, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="yiv5674955088"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Hank,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">yes, this was what happened in my last pool test. I had a different motor &<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">ran it for 30hrs before it self destructed. I had noticed the oil moving up the line<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">when the thruster started. I didn't have a temperature sensor but must have<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">really cooked it. Multiple things went wrong. It had 3 hall sensors & they could<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">be moved about to adjust the motor timing by heating the glue their board was<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">glued on with. It came lose so the motor timing would be seriously out of whack<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">causing more heating. Then there was the bad press fit of the stainless shaft<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">I made for it......am learning.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv5674955088yqt44313"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><br>On 5/10/2018, at 9:28 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Ya, I thought you were just trying to stop oil from migrating up the hose, but the oil is being forced up by centrifugal forces from the armature. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Hank<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv5674955088yahoo_quoted_8839823556"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">On Thursday, October 4, 2018, 1:50:10 PM MDT, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="yiv5674955088"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Thanks Hank,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">I like your method for making the bushing. It doesn't warrant a bearing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">& as I said the ceramic bearings are expensive. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">I was a bit confused about the oil trap but kept quiet :)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv5674955088yqt13328"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><br>On 5/10/2018, at 12:40 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">I just realized I misunderstood what your goal is, my idea of a oil trap will not help keep the oil in the motor. The joints in my arm are plastic bushings made from PVC. I use a hole saw to make a round plastic disk 1\2 in thick, then I machine a shoulder in the disk that fits tight into the arm member. The disk has a centre hole drilled for the centre pin. Seems to work real nice and is quick to make.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Hank<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv5674955088yahoo_quoted_8992283216"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">On Wednesday, October 3, 2018, 7:13:05 PM MDT, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="yiv5674955088"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Hank,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">the oil tube is clear, so I'll monitor the oil level in the tube & see if<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">additional over pressure helps first. Also I have a temperature sensor<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">in the motor so if the motor runs cool enough I won't worry.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Did you put bearings in the joints of your manipulator, or not bother?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">I am still running with the idea of a manipulator with an open gearbox<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">& underwater motor. I can get ceramic bearings but they are expensive.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Alan <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv5674955088yqt34186"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><br>On 4/10/2018, at 12:23 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Alan, all you need is to interrupt the oil pathway, just take a larger container \pipe\ whatever and have the lower tube enter at the bottom of the vessel and have the exiting tube leave on the opposite side above it. I use this method as a water trap for my steam engine, under pressure.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Hank<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv5674955088yahoo_quoted_9514140126"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">On Wednesday, October 3, 2018, 3:39:28 PM MDT, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="yiv5674955088"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Hank,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">I have the wires running out of the motor through the tube that the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">oil comes in through. At a point in that line I have a T where the wires<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">are epoxied & run without the tubing to the through hull, and the tubing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">continues on to the oil compensator. The compensator has a low oil<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">level switch, so there should always be oil in the line.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">There is increasing ambient pressure going in to the housing as you <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">dive, so not sure how you would relieve that on ascent with some sort<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">of oil trap! But I am not sure what idea you have.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">I am stuck on an Island for 3 weeks looking after a dog & cat then my<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">other daughter is flying in & stealing my car, so won't be<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">making any rapid progress on this :(. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><br>On 4/10/2018, at 9:29 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">You can make a oil trap in the compensation tube, its real simple.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Hank<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv5674955088yahoo_quoted_8984756303"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">On Wednesday, October 3, 2018, 12:32:59 PM MDT, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="yiv5674955088"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Hank,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">I am hoping I can dial up the over pressure to the point that it<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">keeps the oil down. (like blowing in to a straw forcing the liquid out)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">The oil goes in through a clear tube so I can monitor the level.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">I am not confident though; however oil compensation has been<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">around for a long time. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Unfortunately I can't put a one way valve in the system as the <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">pressure won't be able to escape on ascent.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Below is the motor in oil without the proppeller.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><image1.JPG><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv5674955088yqt44265"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><br>On 4/10/2018, at 1:34 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">I have had similar situation, the oil will still come up the tube. The over pressure makes no difference, unless there is a piston or diaphragm blocking the oil.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Hank<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv5674955088yahoo_quoted_9469552021"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">On Wednesday, October 3, 2018, 2:53:29 AM MDT, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="yiv5674955088"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Hank,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">yes very patient "lol" as this might not be the final version.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">I have tested the motor out of the housing in a bucket of oil & established<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">that it could only be run at 30 Amps without overheating. It causes quite <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">a turbulence running in oil with no prop on due to the open design of a rotating <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">back section. It will want to force oil out of the housing & up the oil feed tube,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">but I am hoping the overpressure from my oil compensator will keep the oil<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">in around the motor. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Am learning a lot on each attempt.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv5674955088yqt95416"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A"><br>On 3/10/2018, at 9:06 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:#26282A">Alan, your patience is amazing. 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