<div dir="auto">Cliff, I liked the feature to the roll. It allowed me to look out the port side and see the bottom while moving forward. I wonder the difference with your acrobat mode in open water. I'll be using a multi function flight stick mounted on the console on my right side. <div dir="auto">David</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Aug 11, 2018, 10:05 AM Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Alan, yes I could do this as it is easy to redirect joystick functions though a PLC update. I won't be doing this and the reason is that when I first designed my boat, I had lots of buttons on my joystick. I could execute MBT blow and flood, VBT blow and flood, correct trim in boat as well as several other functions. What I found from using it was it was hard to use the buttons. I would have to take my eyes off where I was going and look down to the joystick to use the buttons which were kind of small. The joystick was also located between my legs lake like in an old style airplane. This made it hard to get in and out of the seat. I ended up ripping out this joystick and replacing it with a 3-Axis joystick that has no buttons that is mounted along the hull on the starboard side. My boat is small and this helps getting in and out of the boat. Buttons are now on panel on the starboard side of the boat. This has worked better for me. I think the joystick orientation and function are more important to 'flyers" as apposed to 'K-boats" because of the sensitivity of joystick movement given the widely different GC-GB spreads between the two design philosophies. For example in my boat, slight movements to the starboard or port sides with the joystick, can cause the boat to roll +/- 30 degrees. This is Ok if you want to roll but if you are just trying to punch a button on the joystick, it's kind of unsettling.</div><div><br></div><div>Cliff</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>David, Cliff,</div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862AppleMailSignature">just had the thought that if you are using a flight controller style</div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862AppleMailSignature">joystick you could wire up your push to talk button on your coms</div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862AppleMailSignature">to that. They have plenty of switches & it would give you a free hand.</div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862AppleMailSignature">Cheers Alan</div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862AppleMailSignature"><br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 2/08/2018, at 5:35 PM, David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="auto">Hi Alan, my plan is to use the ssb2010 with headset in the sub and the St101 on the surface with headset. Once I get all the pieces I plan on running some experiments on the volume and headset control. I have access to 6 mics, and 6 transducers at a pretty decent price. So i may grow my inventory to play with . My 101 showed up today, and i should have the 2010 and headsets later this week.<div dir="auto">David</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 1, 2018 8:13 PM, "Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16475"><br></div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16475">Alan, the transducer is potted very well. I suspect it is capable of going much deeper than the 500 foot maximum the SSB-2010 unit is rated for. Cliff has one mounted on R-300 and got it down to 400 feet with no issues.</div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16475"><br></div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16475">Jon</div><div class="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916qtdSeparateBR" id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16476"><br><br></div><div class="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yahoo_quoted" id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16480" style="display:block"> <div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16479" style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"> <div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16478" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16477" dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><div class="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862quoted-text"><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br> </div><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 1, 2018 10:57 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Comms for the SeaQuestor Sub<br> </font> </div><div class="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862quoted-text"> <div class="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916y_msg_container" id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16481"><br><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yiv6837277543"><div><div><span></span></div><div></div></div><div><div><span></span></div><div></div></div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16486"><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16485">Thanks Jon & Alec,</div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16752">I see the transducer for sale.....</div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16755"><a id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16754" href="https://www.uswaterrescue.com/TC_35S_Transducer_Cable_p/o-tc-35s.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank">https://www.uswaterrescue.com/TC_35S_Transducer_Cable_p/o-tc-35s.htm</a></div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16756">for $209-. Or $189- for the shorter cable at</div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16758"><a id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16757" href="http://oceantechnologysystems.mwrc.net/en/product.php?product_id=44912" rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank">http://oceantechnologysystems.mwrc.net/en/product.php?product_id=44912</a></div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16759">The conversion kit I mentioned is $729- & only has the headset & transducer.</div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16760">So if that $189- transducer plugs in to the SB 2010 you could do the conversion</div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16761">for under $250 using Alec's piece of electronics on an alternative headset.</div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16762">Double the savings in my case if I go for a converted SB 2010 for a surface</div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16763">unit.</div><div>Alec, If that electronics is just the push to talk function would it be something</div><div>like a single pole double throw momentary switch. That would mean you push</div><div>the button & there is a connection to the mike & a break in connection</div><div>to the headset. Or is it more complicated than that? Don't want to get you</div><div>to pull your unit apart.</div><div>Jon, thanks for that info. I am now leaning heavily toward 2 x SB 2010.</div><div>If anyone knows what depth the transducers are rated for I would be interested.</div><div>I have seen ratings for the SB 2010 but not the transducer.</div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16703">Cheers Alan</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div id="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862m_-1887898850986018916yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533174658741_16776"><br></div></div></div><br></div> </div></div> </div> </div></div></div><div class="m_6107146080964146204m_-8565717429329840862elided-text">_______________________________________________<br>
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