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        <div>Jon,</div><div>You want the trailer frame sitting level when hooked to the truck so that the space between the axels and frame is the same on both axels, if one axel is hitting the frame.  If one axel is not hitting the frame then there is no harm in having the trailer on a tilt because the weight is automatically balanced out on both axels.</div><div>Hank</div><div><br></div>
        
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                    On Tuesday, July 31, 2018, 7:14:11 PM MDT, Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:
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        <div id="yiv3964901888yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533061618142_66079">Jon,</div><div>You probably have a 2 inch drop hitch that slides into the receiver.  You can remove the ball and flip it over, that will give you a  two inch lift totalling a 4 inch lift.  That will probably do the job.</div><div id="yiv3964901888yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1533061618142_66084">Hank</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
        
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                    On Tuesday, July 31, 2018, 5:28:44 PM MDT, Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:
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                <div><div dir="ltr">No.  The front axle is always closer to the frame whether hooked to the truck or just propped on the jack, level or not level.  I  just assumed that’s because the bulk of the weight is over that front axle.  I don’t recall if it’s that way without the sub on the trailer.  I will have to check again.  <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">The trailer is long which should help launch and recovery although I will probably still need an extension. <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">--------------------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 7/31/18, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Trailer Issue<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> To: "Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2018, 7:00 PM<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">         Jon, when the trailer is sitting on level<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> ground hooked to the truck, is the space between the axel<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> and frame the same on both axels.  In your case 5% is a bit<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> light unless you have some weight in the back of the truck.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">  Looks nice on that trailer!Hank<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">         <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">         <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">             <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">                 <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">                 <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">                     On Tuesday, July 31, 2018, 4:24:22 PM<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> MDT, Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">                 <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">                 <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">                 <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">                 Hard<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> to get a definitive answer about tongue weight, but after<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> some searching it does appear that 5% for boat trailers and<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> 10% for utility trailers is in the recommended range.  I<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> pulled the sub back about 15 inches which got it to 5% and<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> then took it for a short drive.  Based upon sound only, it<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> does sound like that forward spring is "topping<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> out" against the frame when I hit a dip in the road but<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> also recovering.  When I stopped I could see that the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> spring eye was not butted up against the frame, unlike the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> other night when I had tongue weight at 10%.  Not much of a<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> road test but I did get up to 55 without any hint of sway. <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> I may pull the sub back another inch and then take it for a<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> longer road test tonight including the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> highway.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> _______________________________________________<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">             <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">         _____________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