<div dir="ltr">Jon,<div><br></div><div>You might look into a fabric structure that has aluminum tube support and structure and they even come with sides if you want them. They keep the weather off you and a lot cheaper than a metal or wood frame building. A lot of people use them here in Hawaii to park cars under and a lot of other uses.</div><div>Just spoke with my friend and looks like he just lost his house to Madam Pele last night😬.</div><div>Rick</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 8:52 AM, irox via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif">Nice videos! Thanks for making them! And thanks for sharing progress - I find these updates very motivating and help me remember I get on with my projects too.<br><br>I've recently ordered a 2000lb Aluminum Gantry Crane. I figure the biggest chance of accident with when moving the sub. I had originally planned on moving it with two engine hoists, but this look like a recipe for problems. Also, since I'm normally working on my sub alone, I need something I can safely use by myself. I should be able to set it up by myself inside my garage.<br><br>Cheers!<br> Ian.<br><br><blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:black">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <u></u>
<br>Sent: May 29, 2018 8:06 AM
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<br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] DSV Aquatic update
<br><br><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u>96<span class=""><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7340"><span></span></div><div class="m_8154513973907661862qtdSeparateBR" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7223"><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7253" dir="ltr">Moved the submarine yesterday (Monday 5/28) from the original 1979 steel trailer to the new aluminum trailer. Working alone, it took me 8 hours to build the gantry, lift the sub, and swap out the trailers. No issues however and it all went pretty smoothly. I have to admit I was a bit nervous about lifting the sub on wood beams, but I had used an online calculator (<a href="http://forestryforum.com/members/donp/beamclc_ctrpointload.htm" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7360" target="_blank">http://forestryforum.com/<wbr>members/donp/beamclc_<wbr>ctrpointload.htm</a>) </div><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7253" dir="ltr">to determine timber sizes and it turned out to be accurate. If there was any deflection in the beams it certainly was not noticeable to the naked eye.</div><div id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7368"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7256">The submarine is completely stripped and is as light as it is ever going to get. I have no idea what the actual weight is but I calculated approximately 2500 pounds based upon the amount of steel in the various parts (main cylinder, heads, conning tower, battery pods, etc). I decided to split that weight between two beams rather than just one so I could use lighter material. Each beam was created from laminating two 2x10x10 full dimensional planks purchased from a local saw mill which provided a full 4x10x10 beam. Posts were created by laminating two 2x6x10 planks together to provide full 4x6x10 material. Lots of bracing here, there, and everywhere. Looks ugly, but is very solid.</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7256"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7256">I used two 2-ton "come along" manual winches attached to the fore and aft lifting rings then lifted/lowered equally between the two winches. Once free hanging, the sub did sway a bit since I had to lean on it to get to the winches. This also made me nervous since too much swaying could bring the gantry down but I was easily able to counter and damper the small sway. I probably would not have done this on a windy day.</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7256"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7256">The old and new trailers are the same height so I only needed to lift the sub about four inches so that it was free of the c-channel that it rests inside. Then it was simply a matter of pulling the old trailer out from underneath, backing the new trailer underneath with proper placement, then lowering the sub back down. Happy to have the sub on a road worthy trailer now.</div></div><div 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class="m_8154513973907661862y_msg_container" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7265" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;font-size:16px">Episode 3 - Trailer Swap - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLbbFUlKHkU" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_10449" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/<wbr>watch?v=FLbbFUlKHkU</a></div><div class="m_8154513973907661862y_msg_container" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7265" dir="ltr"><br></div><div class="m_8154513973907661862y_msg_container" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7265" dir="ltr">Episode 2 - More Trailer Mods - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4d0nzWIgYo" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_10530" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/<wbr>watch?v=e4d0nzWIgYo</a></div><div class="m_8154513973907661862y_msg_container" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7265" dir="ltr"><br></div><div class="m_8154513973907661862y_msg_container" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7265" dir="ltr">Episode 1 - Fender Repair - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh3d5BI1vig" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_10626" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/<wbr>watch?v=zh3d5BI1vig</a></div><div class="m_8154513973907661862y_msg_container" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7265" dir="ltr"><br></div><div class="m_8154513973907661862y_msg_container" id="m_8154513973907661862yui_3_16_0_1_1527603558182_7265" dir="ltr"><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u></span></blockquote></div></div>
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