<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27393"><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27393"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27472">The 600 has rollers lengthwise along the bottom of the battery pod, about 54 inches worth I believe. I could go the channel route, but no, I am hoping the bunks will cradle the hull and be high enough to allow the batter pods to dangle underneath. So essentially, I'm saying the submarine will be supported by the bunks and the battery pods will not carry any weight. My calculations show the two 3x12 bunks should easily support the weight of a dive ready 600, about 4500 pounds. Bunk span is 8 feet as is, however I could add a crossbeam to support the bunks in the middle and have only 4 foot span between supports.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27393"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27393" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27807">I really have no preference and could easily attach some 4 inch channel to the crossbeams so the battery pods could hold the weight of the sub, but I have a suspicion that the bunks would allow easier loading because with the channel the sub pods would have to be guided pretty accurately over them to sit correctly.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27393" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27393" dir="ltr"><span>Jon</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27394"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27811" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27810"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27809"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27808"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27812"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, March 25, 2018 3:22 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Bunk Trailer<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_27813"><br><div id="yiv6401830151"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
<div>Jon,</div><div>Your 26 foot trailer is perfect given your light truck. I removed the bunks, because Gamma sits on the flat battery box that protrudes under the hull. I had to add an extra crossmember to the trailer to support the weight. I have a 2 by 12 plank on the cross members for Gamma to sit on. Wood is good so the sub doesn't slide as easy and I needed the 1.5 inch lift to get the sub above the axels. </div><div>I assume you will weld some brackets and channel to the trailer frame for your rollers under the battery pods. Do you have rollers under? If not, I would put two at the front end of the pods, I put one at the front and it is a dream. The sub comes onto the trailer sitting level, while the trailer is on an angle. There is no need for rollers at the back, and the front rollers don't need to be below the pods because of the angle of attack, then they don't interfere with the sub sitting on the floor.</div><div>Hank</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Sunday, March 25, 2018, 12:38:19 PM MDT, Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv6401830151"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_12965"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_12965"><span id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_12966">Already got it and it's a 26 footer as well, I will have to learn to drive slower. I've got a Toyota Tacoma and the 6000 GVW will be at the Tacoma's max pulling limit so I am sure I will not forget it will be behind me. :) :)</span></div><div id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_12965"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_12965"><span id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_13278">I looked at Gamma on your trailer but noticed it's not cradled by bunks, I don't think. You have removed the bunks and it sits on some...I don't know...channels? Did you try cradling the hull by wooden bunks?</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_12965"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_12965"><span>Jon</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_12965"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div class="yiv6401830151qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_11771"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6401830151yahoo_quoted" id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_13283" style="display:block;"> <div id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_13282" style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"> <div id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_13281" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv6401830151yqt5451165945" id="yiv6401830151yqt11311"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_13280"> <font id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_13279" size="2" face="Arial"> </font><hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:04 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Bunk Trailer<br clear="none"> </div> <div class="yiv6401830151y_msg_container" id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_13284"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv6401830151"><div id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_13287"><div id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_13286" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
<div id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_13285">Jon,</div><div id="yiv6401830151yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1522002091708_13288">Gamma rides on a 26 foot bunk style boat railer. That style of trailer is the lowest for shallow launches . Also buy the longest trailer you can handle, not just for easy launching but for safe towing. Gamma is 6,000 lbs and I tow it and forget it is behind me. Nothing worse than the trailer whipping around because it is to short. Well okay hitting your shin on your trailer hitch might be worse ;-)</div><div>Hank</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Sunday, March 25, 2018, 7:21:25 AM MDT, Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:
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