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            <div>Doug,</div><div>That is very good testimony!  I did read a machinist blog on the subject and they suggested a 3M product.  Starting to look like 3M Epoxy is the way to go.</div><div>Hank</div><div><br></div>
            
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                        On Friday, December 22, 2017, 6:05:40 PM MST, Douglas Suhr via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:
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                    <div><div dir="ltr">Hank, on a new box trailer that I just purchased last year, the<br clear="none">aluminum skin of the box's exterior is glued (epoxied) at the seams as<br clear="none">opposed to riveted. The option costs a little more, but looks better<br clear="none">than the riveted skin, IMO.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Another advantage in the case of the trailer skin is that it doesn't<br clear="none">require silicon sealing with epoxy welds as it would with rivets, so<br clear="none">again, it looks better. There's a small 3M sticker on the trailer, if<br clear="none">you want, I can take a look at it tomorrow. I remember when the guy<br clear="none">was trying to sell me the option, he showed me two small I-beams glued<br clear="none">together with the stuff and they seemed pretty strong to me (though<br clear="none">I'm not a hydraulic ram either, so...).<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Glad to see you're on FB! ~ Doug S.<br clear="none"><div class="yqt5026366892" id="yqtfd54235"><br clear="none">On 12/22/17, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>  Alec,My research so far shows that aerospace parts are glued also.  I am<br clear="none">> sure the Lotus folks are pretty closed lipped about how they do it.  I will<br clear="none">> do some testing, just checking with the group to save some time and<br clear="none">> headache.What are you using for a ballast an now?  or is it a surprise.Hank<br clear="none">>     On Friday, December 22, 2017, 5:29:20 PM MST, Alec Smyth via<br clear="none">> Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">>  Lotus Cars famously have done that, introducing bonded aluminum chassis<br clear="none">> with the Elise and continuing it on subsequent models. The reason is that<br clear="none">> welding weakens the material, so if it were welded they would need to<br clear="none">> increase the amount of material and it would eat up the weight savings.<br clear="none">> Problem is, I don't know the specifics of the glue they use nor the<br clear="none">> process.<br clear="none">> Best,Alec<br clear="none">> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 6:57 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none">> <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Hi All,I have an idea that requires glueing aluminum plates together.  Has<br clear="none">> anyone tried this?  any success?Hank<br clear="none">> ______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs." href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.</a> org<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/ " target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/ </a>listinfo.cgi/personal_ submersibles<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none">><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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