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                        On Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 6:00:16 AM MDT, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:
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            <div>Hi James,</div><div>I am using continues duty relays and it takes 4 relays per motor.  On my vertical thrusters I am using reversing relays (single relay)  but they are not continues duty, witch is okay.  I want to simplify by using reversing relays (continuous duty) on the main motors.  I thought maybe you already have that and could recommend what works.</div><div>Hank</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
            
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                        On Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 5:14:50 AM MDT, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:
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                    <div><div dir="ltr"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><html><div class="yiv8917137828yqt5763561786" id="yiv8917137828yqt24135"><div>Hi Hank,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I cant remember off the top of my head now.  I just had a quick search<br clear="none">and I cant find them.  They are just standard high current 24v pots of<br clear="none">some sort.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I seem to remember they were similar to yours.  Or some that you had used.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">James<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 31 October 2017 at 10:25, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> Hi James,<br clear="none">> What type of relays are you using?<br clear="none">> Hank<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> On Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 3:10:27 AM MDT, James Frankland via<br clear="none">> Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Hi rick,<br clear="none">> I'm here.  What do you want to know?  I'm using minn Kota rip tide 80's at<br clear="none">> 24v.  2x banks of 4 agm's. These are wired in 2 pairs of batteries in series<br clear="none">> with both pairs connected to the main terminals.  I have a standard heavy<br clear="none">> switch so I can use each bank separately or both together.  I used heavy<br clear="none">> tinned marine cable.  Can't remember the thickness.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> I find my motors a little underpowered, but other than that it seems fine.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Aft thruster has the minn Kota controller, I originally had those on the<br clear="none">> sides but found it a pain, so I changed those to have just on/off relays.<br clear="none">> Much better.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Regards,<br clear="none">> James<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> On Monday, 30 October 2017, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none">> <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Alan<br clear="none">> Yes there are 2 separate pods each containing 4 each 12v batteries , 3 for<br clear="none">> the 36v for thrusters & 1 for the onboard systems.<br clear="none">> DAN H built his per plans and specs and is running his stern thruster off<br clear="none">> one side & and sides off the other side but he is not running Minn-Kotas.<br clear="none">> I am hopping James Franklin will chime in as he is using the Minn-Kotas in<br clear="none">> his.<br clear="none">> Rick<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 8:13 PM Alan via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none">> <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs." target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.">personal_submersibles@psubs.</a> org> wrote:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Rick,<br clear="none">> I am not familiar with the k350 battery set up, but are there two<br clear="none">> battery pods with 3 x 12V batteries in each pod?<br clear="none">> What are the other k350 owners doing? Do they run the 3 thrusters<br clear="none">> off the 2 battery pods similtaneously i.e. connect both pods in parallel.<br clear="none">> If you did this then you would only be drawing half the amps off each<br clear="none">> battery pod, than you would be if you were using one.<br clear="none">> I wonder what traction batteries mobility scooters use?<br clear="none">> Cheers Alan<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Sent from my iPad<br clear="none">><br clear="none">>> On 29/10/2017, at 9:27 AM, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none">>> <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs." target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.">personal_submersibles@psubs.</a> org> wrote:<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> I am trying to size my wire for the 36v side from where the power comes<br clear="none">>> into the sub to selector switch to hot buss bar and was wondering if that<br clear="none">>> was something that someone could answer. Also I was told by Minn-Kota that<br clear="none">>> they recommend group 27 marine batteries.<br clear="none">>> I have a couple of deep cycle (marine batteries) on my boat and they are<br clear="none">>> 550 cca and 125 amps reserve capacity.<br clear="none">>> My plan is to run all three Minn-kota thrusters off of one side at a time<br clear="none">>> and their max draw is 46 amps max so there is 138 amps if all three<br clear="none">>> thrusters are wide open. I doubt I would ever have all three maxed for more<br clear="none">>> than short spurts but want to be repaired for the worst case scenario like<br clear="none">>> if I am bucking a strong current.<br clear="none">>> I also will be running 6 outside LED lights off the same bank and though I<br clear="none">>> can dim them and selectively use them, all on at max would be about a 16.6<br clear="none">>> amp draw as well. Now most of the time I will be using the thrusters at<br clear="none">>> minimal draw and not all 3 at the same time and the 6 lights will probably<br clear="none">>> never all be on at the same time.<br clear="none">>> If everything was wide open, I would be pulling about 155 amps from a bank<br clear="none">>> that has a reserve capacity of 125 so it would deplete the bank rather fast<br clear="none">>> and may even damage the batteries due to a quick drain? So,,, first<br clear="none">>> question...would 2 OTT wire be sufficient from battery source to bus bar as<br clear="none">>> long as I am not running full tilt on everythig and second... since I have<br clear="none">>> to stick with a lead acid system due to design, can I get a group 27 battery<br clear="none">>> that can deliver much more than the 125 amps I have on my boat?<br clear="none">>> I also have the option of putting the battery selector switch on both<br clear="none">>> banks if I have to but would rather deplete one bank at a time if can.<br clear="none">>> Comments appreciated.<br clear="none">>> Rick<br clear="none">>> ______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">>> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none">>> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs." target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.</a> org<br clear="none">>> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/ ">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/ </a>listinfo.cgi/personal_ submersibles<div class="yiv8917137828yqt7013448192" id="yiv8917137828yqtfd60271"><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> ______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none">> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs." target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.</a> org<br clear="none">> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/ ">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/ </a>listinfo.cgi/personal_ submersibles<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none">> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none">> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none">> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none">> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none">><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div></html></html></div><html><div class="yqt5763561786" id="yqt69831"><body>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></body></div></html></div>
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