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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">500 ft ?? Than nearly all our subs here are DSV.. <br /></span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">By the way - the british salvage diver free the gold from the Edingburg wreck from 850 feet in the 70ies. </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">And the record in chamber diving is around 2500 feet.. </span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] DNVGL</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">Datum: 2017-10-21T11:50:05+0200</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">Von: "hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles@psubs.org></p>
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<div>Scott,</div>
<div>That makes sense. You are certainly a member of a very exclusive group. What is there, maybe 5 operating DSV's out there? </div>
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<div>On Friday, October 20, 2017, 6:49:43 PM MDT, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:</div>
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<div>Scott,</div>
<div id="yiv2207537879AppleMailSignature">DNVGL considered my 500ft design as deep diving.</div>
<div id="yiv2207537879AppleMailSignature">Below is there response on this.</div>
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<div id="yiv2207537879AppleMailSignature"><span>No. 500ft is seen as a deep depth, where even tec-divers will have difficulties to reach without special preparations. <br class="yiv2207537879" clear="none" />96h additional life support is intended to enable rescue teams to arrive, find and reach the submersible as well to apply means for rescue of the submersible (if e.g. stucked or entangled, the pilot became unconscious, etc.)</span><br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />Sent from my iPad</div>
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<div>I have heard 2 things</div>
<div>*2000m or more</div>
<div>*Have the ballast use a high pressure pump.</div>
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<div>But there isn't a law or anything so I guess anyone could call anything they like. Haha</div>
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<div>Date: 10/20/17 5:57 PM (GMT-06:00)</div>
<div>To: Scott Waters via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></div>
<div>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] DNVGL</div>
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<div>What is the depth rating a sub needs to be to be considered a DSV?</div>
<div>Hank</div>
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<div>On Friday, October 20, 2017, 3:57:54 PM MDT, Scott Waters via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>Thanks Carsten,</div>
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<div>We actually already have the rules and have been deep deep down the rabbit hole. Haha. There is some wording that does not jive with some of other parts as well as some things we are going to need acceptions on since we are a DSV and not a traditional submarine.</div>
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<div>Thank you,</div>
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<div>From: "<a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></div>
<div>Date: 10/20/17 12:51 PM (GMT-06:00)</div>
<div>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></div>
<div>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] DNVGL</div>
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Scott the rules are online : <br clear="none" /><br clear="none" /><a href="https://rules.dnvgl.com/ServiceDocuments/dnvgl/#!/industry/1/Maritime/5/DNV%20GL%20rules%20for%20classification:%20Underwater%20technology%20(RU-UWT)" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">https://rules.dnvgl.com/ServiceDocuments/dnvgl/#!/industry/1/Maritime/5/DNV%20GL%20rules%20for%20classification:%20Underwater%20technology%20(RU-UWT)</a><br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />No need to ask an inspector. <br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />vbr Carsten <br clear="none" /><br clear="none" /><br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />-----Original-Nachricht-----<br clear="none" />Betreff: [PSUBS-MAILIST] DNVGL<br clear="none" />Datum: 2017-10-20T19:26:21+0200<br clear="none" />Von: "via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none" />An: "PSUBS" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />Is there anyone on PSUBS that is familiar with DNVGL rules? We have some basic questions, but are trying not to consult an inspector for every question because of the cost. <br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />Thank you,<br clear="none" />Scott <br clear="none" />_______________________________________________<br clear="none" />Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none" /><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none" /><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www..psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none" /><br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />_______________________________________________<br clear="none" />Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none" /><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none" /><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></div>
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