<DIV style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif; font-size:10pt;"><DIV>I have found that I get a better weld if both sides are beveled .</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Brian<BR><BR>--- personal_submersibles@psubs.org wrote:<BR><BR>From: Private via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Heads Question<BR>Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 19:30:01 -0400<BR><BR></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>Hi David,</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Absolutely, you want it with the flange. Any impression otherwise was my "mind typo" that I was trying to clarify in the second email. If you can avoid beveling it yourself, however, it'll save quite a job. You only need one of the two edges beveled, either the head flange or the end of the cylinder it will mate to, and it doesn't matter which. Greg has a good point, but I suppose a key factor is whether you'll be welding yourself or contracting out. I learned to do my own, with an awful lot of help from Dan Lance.</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Best,</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Alec</DIV><DIV><BR>On Sep 16, 2017, at 12:50 PM, james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><DIV style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><DIV><SPAN>Hi David,</SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN>In my experience it was cheaper and faster to hire an ASME tank fabricator to produce a steel cylinder with the head (or heads) welded on. Mine came machine welded with an ASME code stamp. </SPAN></DIV><DIV dir="ltr"><SPAN>If your design will feature external frames, ask them for both heads welded on. If your design will feature internal frames (done later) ask them to weld one end only. This will be cheaper in the long run and better built. It's hard to beat pressure vessel code machine welding. Specify NO backing strips.</SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Another tip- call it a "vacuum tank".</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Greg Cottrell<BR><BR></DIV><DIV style="display: block;"> <DIV style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <DIV style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <DIV dir="ltr"> <FONT face="Arial" size="2"> <HR size="1"> <B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">From:</SPAN></B> David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>><BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">To:</SPAN></B> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>> <BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, September 16, 2017 12:20 PM<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Heads Question<BR> </FONT> </DIV> <DIV><BR><DIV><DIV dir="ltr"><DIV>Hi Alec,</DIV><DIV> I just spoke with the company that Roberto mentioned here in California to place an order for dished head for the SeaQuestor. I will be using the 36"OD x .375 A516-70 steel what they call Elliptical 2:1 Ratio ASME Code Type. It comes with a 2" flange which is really a 36" od ring shape as part of the forming. This would mate up to the 36"OD first hull section. I'm thinking that this would give me the best welding condition with two matched surfaces that I would bevel for full pen welding. I'm curious why not to have the flange? My cost here is $480.00 + $96 to have it shipped to northern California from southern California. even though its only a nine hour drive one way, I think my time would be worth more than $5 hr to pick it up. LOL Unless of course its cheaper in Canada (Hank), I might make the trip and could serve as support crew for the Gamma. Any thoughts out there from fellow Psubers would be appreciated.<BR></DIV></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV><DIV dir="ltr"><DIV>Best Regards,<BR>David Colombo<BR><IMG width="200" height="110" src="http://static.squarespace.com/static/533310a9e4b0fba62008a464/t/5339c1f2e4b041bac4e25d1b/1396294132055/?format=500w"><BR>804 College Ave<BR>Santa Rosa, CA. 95404<BR>(707) 536-1424<BR><A href="http://www.seaquestor.com/">www.SeaQuestor.com</A><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<BR><DIV>On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <SPAN dir="ltr"><<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><DIV dir="ltr">Ugh, mental typo. I meant "un-beveled" and "bevel them yourself", not "un-flanged" and "flange them yourself".<DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>!!!!!!!</DIV></DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV><BR><DIV>On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Alec Smyth <SPAN dir="ltr"><<A href="mailto:alecsmyth@gmail.com">alecsmyth@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><DIV dir="ltr">Hi Roberto,<DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>I believe the short description for what you need is flanged, beveled, and code. You could get them unflanged, but it takes quite a while to make a flange with an angle grinder. The flanges if I recall are 2". Do set up a project page or something so we can follow progress!</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Best,</DIV><DIV><BR>Alec</DIV></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV><DIV>On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 5:07 PM, roberto alvarez via Personal_Submersibles <SPAN dir="ltr"><<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.o rg</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR></DIV></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><DIV><DIV><DIV dir="ltr">Hi, lost the plans cd for the k250, i am interested in the head selection, i found a seler in california and have <DIV>flanged ,beveled ,code, non code,</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Will apreciate your support in this ( until i found the plans cd )</DIV></DIV>
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