<div>Dan Lance</div><div>Can you contact me off list?</div><div>"<a href="mailto:Satwelder@gmail.com">Satwelder@gmail.com</a>" </div><div>Thanks </div><div>Rick </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 8:53 AM David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Thanks Scott.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-8728177319715187259gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div><div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_-8728177319715187259gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div><div>Best Regards,<br>David Colombo<br><img src="http://static.squarespace.com/static/533310a9e4b0fba62008a464/t/5339c1f2e4b041bac4e25d1b/1396294132055/?format=500w" height="110" width="200"><br>804 College Ave<br>Santa Rosa, CA. 95404<br>(707) 536-1424<br><a href="http://www.SeaQuestor.com" target="_blank">www.SeaQuestor.com</a><br><br></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:35 AM, via Personal_Submersibles <span><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">David,<br>
<br>
I talked with KISS rebreather and they are going to set up a coupon code to get the special pricing. He will get back with me on it here soon. The offer will only be good for about a month or so, then the pricing will be retail. The delivery time looks like 6 weeks. He is getting me dimensions and I will post them on the psubs forum soon.<br>
<span class="m_-8728177319715187259im m_-8728177319715187259HOEnZb"><br>
Thank you,<br>
Scott Waters<br>
<br>
> -------Original Message-------<br>
</span><span class="m_-8728177319715187259im m_-8728177319715187259HOEnZb">> From: David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] EBA!!!<br>
</span><span class="m_-8728177319715187259im m_-8728177319715187259HOEnZb">> Sent: Aug 24 '17 14:16<br>
><br>
> Hi Scott,<br>
> Are you taking orders or deposits for the unit. Any ideas as to the<br>
> delivery schedule of the units? Any dimensions and or pictures would<br>
> help for placement in the SeaQuestor would be helpful.<br>
><br>
> Best Regards,<br>
> David Colombo<br>
><br>
</span><div class="m_-8728177319715187259HOEnZb"><div class="m_-8728177319715187259h5">> 804 College Ave<br>
> Santa Rosa, CA. 95404<br>
> <a href="tel:%28707%29%20536-1424" value="+17075361424" target="_blank">(707) 536-1424</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.SeaQuestor.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.SeaQuestor.com</a><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 7:24 AM, via Personal_Submersibles<br>
> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Hank,<br>
> ><br>
> > I completely understand being so into the project a lot of "what<br>
> > if" scenarios are never considered. That is one of the reasons, of<br>
> > the 14 people that work on Pisces VI, one of them does nothing but<br>
> > safety and writing the operations manual. The Pisces VI used a EBA<br>
> > built by Drager called the Oxy-SR 30M. It is basically the same<br>
> > thing KISS and Pisces developed except it only lasted 30 minutes,<br>
> > did not have the ability to hook up comms, and costs more.<br>
> ><br>
> > The Pisces VI has a lot more safety devices built into her, most of<br>
> > which are over kill for a Psub, but this is an area where I see most<br>
> > of the psubs lacking (including my own KW350 "Trustworthy").<br>
> ><br>
> > Thank you,<br>
> > Scott Waters<br>
> ><br>
> >> -------Original Message-------<br>
> >> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> >> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] EBA!!!<br>
> ><br>
> >> Sent: Aug 24 '17 05:40<br>
> >><br>
> >> Scott,<br>
> >> I have to admit that I have not put so much thought into that<br>
> >> scenario. I think because I (we) spend so much time and effort<br>
> >> installing wiring with fuses and breakers that I have a false<br>
> > sense of<br>
> >> security where short circuits are concerned. I am glad you<br>
> > brought it<br>
> >> up and I am sure in the future you will be pointing out more<br>
> > risk<br>
> >> assessments. We are lucky to have you with us.<br>
> >> What did Pisces VI have originally?<br>
> >> Hank<br>
> >><br>
> >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 11:22:46 PM MDT, via<br>
> >> Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> I guess I should mention some other reasons why this unit is<br>
> > worth it<br>
> >> *It has a 3hr breath time<br>
> >> *It can be hooked up to u/w comms to keep communications with<br>
> > the<br>
> >> surface while still breathing safe air<br>
> >> *It is compact (unlike the BioMarine units that a lot of<br>
> > submarines<br>
> >> use for their EBAs)<br>
> >> *Fully enclosed mask which makes donning way faster than a reg<br>
> > and<br>
> >> mask that most BIBS use<br>
> >> *All parts are professionally built to the KISS standard. (If<br>
> > you have<br>
> >> ever dove a KISS rebreather you will know what I mean<br>
> >><br>
> >> Probably one of the most important things I learned at my month<br>
> > at sea<br>
> >> with Woods Hole and the DSV Alvin is the importance of actually<br>
> >> running realistic drills of emergency situations. This was made<br>
> >> bluntly obvious to me when we really started talking about it.<br>
> > For<br>
> >> example has anyone on psubs actually done a smoke in cabin drill<br>
> > from<br>
> >> operational depth? I think if you do you will be shocked. Trying<br>
> > to<br>
> >> don a BIBS and mask, ensure passengers get their BIBS and mask<br>
> > donned,<br>
> >> locate the issue, isolate the issue, get the submarine on it's<br>
> > way up,<br>
> >> communicate with the surface, on the way up (which is probably<br>
> > at a<br>
> >> full blow), slow the accent, vent the cabin from the BIBS at a<br>
> > slow<br>
> >> rate so you don't blow a viewport or blow the hatch dogs and<br>
> > flood the<br>
> >> submarine at 10 to 30 feet likely drowning everyone. Now that<br>
> > you have<br>
> >> done this with a drill add the stress level and I think you will<br>
> > see<br>
> >> why it is unacceptable. I know there was a comment on a hour of<br>
> > BIBS<br>
> >> usage only brought up the p!<br>
> >> ressure about 15psi. I would challenge you to do the calcs to<br>
> > see at<br>
> >> what pressure a viewport or the hatch fails from internal<br>
> > pressure. I<br>
> >> think again you will be shocked.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I have learned a lot in my career with submarines and I know<br>
> > psubs is<br>
> >> committed to safety above all other and I would love to help<br>
> > make it<br>
> >> safer. This is the reason why I am pushing this so hard and<br>
> > sharing<br>
> >> the discount. If you take nothing else from this e-mail, then I<br>
> > urge<br>
> >> everyone to actually run their emergency plans under controlled<br>
> >> circumstances then evaluate afterwards and ask, "with the stress<br>
> > level<br>
> >> of a real situation, is this a good plan?".<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thank you,<br>
> >> Scott Waters<br>
> >><br>
> >> > -------Original Message-------<br>
> >> > From: Alan via Personal_Submersibles<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> >> > To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> >> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] EBA!!!<br>
> >> > Sent: Aug 23 '17 22:43<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Brian,<br>
> >> > I am not an expert on rebreathers but<br>
> >> > in a submarine, could you have a lung with full face mask & 3<br>
> > hoses<br>
> >> > attached to it. One hose pushes on to the submarines O2<br>
> > outlet,<br>
> >> > & the other 2 to your CO2 scrubber inlet & outlet. Manually<br>
> > control<br>
> >> > the volume of the lung or set up some sort of bellows add<br>
> > system!<br>
> >> > In a 1 ton volume submarine you would have over an hour of<br>
> >> breathing<br>
> >> > off a standard regulator & air before you doubled the<br>
> > pressure<br>
> >> inside<br>
> >> > the sub anyway.<br>
> >> > I am installing ptfe insulated wiring on the inside of my sub<br>
> > to<br>
> >> avoid<br>
> >> > any<br>
> >> > fires with that, but you can't guarantee what's in all the<br>
> >> electronics<br>
> >> > you<br>
> >> > put in your sub!<br>
> >> > Alan<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Sent from my iPad<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > On 24/08/2017, at 3:11 PM, Brian Hughes via<br>
> > Personal_Submersibles<br>
> >> > <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > > My friend Tom Rose's $100.00 USD rebreather. Unfortunately,<br>
> > a few<br>
> >> > > years ago he died of a heart attack. Tom was a character.<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> > > I've been contemplating making something similar out of a<br>
> > piece<br>
> >> of<br>
> >> > > acrylic pipe, like an old style canister light battery<br>
> > holder,<br>
> >> and<br>
> >> > > an MSA mask. Add a stub for O2 addition. Before I got into<br>
> > this<br>
> >> > > psubs hobby I use to build DIY mixed gas rebreathers.<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
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> >> > ><br>
> >> > > Get Outlook for Android<br>
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