<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hank,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">you would have to turn off & on the motor in the inflatable &</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">detach the power cord which may be more difficult than just</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">towing with the inflatable & boarding the sub.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I know you disliked towing because of the unpredictable</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">weather, but have you been in the bad weather with the </div><div id="AppleMailSignature">inflatable! They can take anything! If you pulled the nose of</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">the inflatable in to the submarine with a rope, you should be</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">able to board in foul weather. ( my theory anyway )</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Is the outboard going to be an over-kill as you will be limited </div><div id="AppleMailSignature">by your thrusters as to how much power you required!</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"> What about buying more batteries to extend the range!</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Pack them in if it's a long journey. They may come in handy</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">driving a heater or air con on shorter dives. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Other than that maybe make a pod with a diesel engine in it</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">that can replace your escape pod!</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Cheers Alan</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"> </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 23/08/2017, at 9:00 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><div>Hi All,</div></div><div>Well I had an idea that I could put a small diesel engine in my escape pod and it would be a quick easy modification. Turns out a diesel that will fit is not readily available, so I looked at my gas engine. That fits but is full of hazards that will take to much time to address. So I give up! </div><div>Now onto the new idea. I thought about putting a 36V generator in my inflatable since I am towing it anyways. I can just tie the boat to the side of Gamma and run a power line over to the sub to power a drive motor. That will work but I have improved on that idea. The boat will have a Johnson 9.5 hp outboard on it, so why not machine a hub onto the outboard motor flywheel and drive a 36V alternator( generator) directly, then the same motor can do two jobs. It has to be direct drive to the alternator because the crank bearing in the motor can not take a side load for a pulley and belt. </div><div>This could work!</div><div>Hank</div><div>. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_4152558569" class="yahoo_quoted"><div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;"><div>On Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 9:49:18 AM MDT, Juergen Guerrero Kommritz via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div id="yiv4222440689"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div>Hello Hank</div><div id="yiv4222440689yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1503407616141_6097">Ethanol do not explode like gasoline. It will burn but do not cause a burst explosion like gasoline. It is safer and if there is an accident and it spill over the enviroment, you get some drunk fishes but nothing serious, after a hangover they will be fine. <br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv4222440689yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1503407616141_6096">As far as I know in some states in the US is possible also to destill your own ethanol for fuel, of course you must get the permit. <br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv4222440689yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1503407616141_6095">Is a idea</div><div id="yiv4222440689yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1503407616141_6168">Best wishes</div><div>Juergen<br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv4222440689yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1503407616141_5816"><span></span></div> <div class="yiv4222440689qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv4222440689yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> schrieb am 14:31 Montag, 21.August 2017:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv4222440689y_msg_container"><div class="yiv4222440689yqt8631181824" id="yiv4222440689yqt86707"><div id="yiv4222440689"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><div>Juergen,</div></div><div>That is interesting, what makes Ethanol safer? does it have a lower flash point? No worries with the passengers drinking the fuel, I will post a sign that says" if you drink the fuel you have to swim home" ;-)</div><div>Hank</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv4222440689yqt6061965399" id="yiv4222440689yqt19874"><div class="yiv4222440689yahoo_quoted" id="yiv4222440689yahoo_quoted_4127426126" style="display:block;"><div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;"><div>On Monday, August 21, 2017, 9:24:42 AM MDT, Juergen Guerrero Kommritz via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div id="yiv4222440689"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv4222440689yqt6061965399" id="yiv4222440689yqt15785"><div><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div id="yiv4222440689yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1503328765359_7791">Hi Hank,</div><div id="yiv4222440689yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1503328765359_7792">An idea is to convert the motor to ethanol, it looses 10% power, but ethanol is saver than gasoline. The greatest problem is to avoid that the passengers drink the fuel :-).</div><div id="yiv4222440689yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1503328765359_7780">Best wishes</div><div id="yiv4222440689yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1503328765359_7790">Juergen<br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv4222440689yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1503328765359_7640"><span></span></div> <div class="yiv4222440689qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv4222440689yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> schrieb am 6:52 Sonntag, 20.August 2017:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv4222440689y_msg_container"><div class="yiv4222440689yqt7188988703" id="yiv4222440689yqt23270"><div id="yiv4222440689"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div>Hi All,</div><div>My diesel engine did not work out in the end, and 6 hp I suspect is a bit skinny. I do have a beautiful 15 hp 4 stroke Honda outboard that has been converted to run a hydraulic pump inboard. I converted it many years ago to power my sternwheeler but ended up with an antique engine. The engine is stripped down to a bare engine with external water pump and internal oil cooler. The problem is, it is a gas engine, and that is a big NO NO or is it? If the fuel supply is outside the hull and the engine is run out of fuel before a dive, then there is no fuel at all inside the sub while it dives. An engine compartment blower fan can constantly circulate air through a duct to the outside of the sub. I know as a rule it is considered a bad idea but with careful installation it could be a very nice drive system. This would be much quieter and smoother than a diesel engine. The Honda would be very easy to remove from the escape pod if I need to escape. The Honda 4 stroke is as reliable as even a Yanmar diesel. I was bragging to a Honda mechanic one time that the Honda starts with two pulls in the spring. He said it must need a tune up LOL it should start in one pull. </div><div>Hank</div></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv4222440689yqt7188988703" id="yiv4222440689yqt60614"></div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div><div class="yiv4222440689yqt6061965399" id="yiv4222440689yqt35283">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div><div class="yqt8631181824" id="yqt15104">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>