<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><div><div>Alec,</div></div><div>Do you flood all the tanks at the same time, or for and aft separately.? Does the sub sink evenly and then suddenly tip forward?</div><div>Hank</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_1487942416" class="yahoo_quoted"><div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;"><div>On Saturday, July 22, 2017, 12:38:55 PM EDT, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div id="yiv9036016453"><html><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Tim,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>There's been lots of planning, but offline among those who expressed an interest in attending. To summarize, the dive dates are August 1-3. Snoopy is at the Suhr's but probably will not be diving. Shackleton has an issue that I will be trying to resolve doing canal tests, making use of the calm water, davits, and brain trust on hand. I suspect the issue is that some tanks are flooding faster than others. She takes a nose dive on submerging. I'm not sure the issue will be resolved, but the test location and friends on hand make it worth the trip. R300 will be there and is all systems go, but Cliff's challenge will most likely be habitability given the temperatures, so he'll try to do tows and transits submerged just to keep the cabin conditions manageable.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>If anyone else is interested in joining us, now would be the perfect time to speak up.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Best,</div><div><br clear="none">Alec</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv9036016453gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv9036016453gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:13 AM, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv9036016453gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv9036016453yqt9231548579" id="yiv9036016453yqt93960"><div lang="EN-CA"><div class="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686WordSection1"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Are there any more details available for the PSUBS convention plans for Islamorada in August? Not that I can make it to the Florida Keys this time, but I haven't noticed any discussion of late.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Tim<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">personal_submersibles- bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de" target="_blank" href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 21, 2017 7:44 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs. org</a>><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Yes thats correct. </span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;"> <u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;"> <u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;">-----Original-Nachricht-----<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;">Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;">Datum: 2017-07-20T21:37:57+0200<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;">Von: "james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs. org</a>><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;">An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs. org</a>><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;"> <u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;"> <u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4188"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Hello Carsten,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4188"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4188"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Do I understand correctly that SL do not class/ certify personal submarines in the United States?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4188"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4188"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4188"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4188"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Greg C<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4270"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4274"><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4273"><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4272"><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4271"><div align="center" class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;"><span style=""></span><hr align="center" size="1" width="100%"></div><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><strong><span style="">From:</span></strong><span style=""> Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs. org</a>><br clear="none"><strong><span style="">To:</span></strong> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs. org</a>> <br clear="none"><strong><span style="">Sent:</span></strong> Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:09 PM<br clear="none"><strong><span style="">Subject:</span></strong> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules</span><span style=""><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4277"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yiv7118026047"><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4276"><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4275"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""><br clear="none">I agree. Does a wet ambient really need to carry a fire extinguisher? The current wording is much too broad to apply against all underwater vessels and I suppose this is the basic reason why MTS is trying to make some sense out of it all.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 7/20/2017 12:11 PM, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de" target="_blank" href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4279" style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Most 1 atm rules would not fit for ambient. </span><span style=""><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4278"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4280"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Example: A ambient 1 hour underwater at 40 m releasing his drop wright will kill all occupants instandly. </span><span style=""><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4282"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Two years ago we get an request to certified such ambient bubble scooters for untrained non diver tourist. </span><span style=""><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">We decide not to follow this invitaion. Somebody else will maybe do. </span><span style=""><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4283"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Carsten </span><span style=""><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500578755932_4284"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span><span style=""><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="">______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs. org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/ listinfo.cgi/personal_ submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><table class="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686MsoNormalTable" border="1" cellpadding="0" style="border:none;border-top:solid #d3d4de 1.0pt;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" width="58" style="width:41.25pt;border:none;padding:9.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt;"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon"><span style="border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none;"><img id="yiv9036016453m_5728105488267328686_x0000_i1026" border="0" width="46" height="29" src="cid:vjDbdwxaVmpsCKEMEUJM" alt="Image removed by sender."></span></a><u></u><u></u></p></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" width="473" style="width:352.5pt;border:none;padding:9.0pt .75pt .75pt .75pt;"><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.5pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Virus-free. <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link"><span style="color:#4453ea;">www.avast.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div><p class="yiv9036016453MsoNormal"><span style=""></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><br clear="none">______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">
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