<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Thanks Mike. Will add you to email list for dive logistics. Please send your email address and PN.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">BTW, this is not a <a href="http://Psub.org">Psub.org</a> convention, just some Psubbers diving their boats in a great location.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Cliff<br><br><br><div>Cliff Redus</div></div><div><br>On Jul 22, 2017, at 12:26 PM, peaceroom via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<div>I'll be there for diving support. Mike Patterson </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:88%;color:#364f67" dir="auto">Sent from my Samsung device</div></div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br>Date: 7/22/17 12:39 PM (GMT-05:00) <br>To: <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> <br>Subject: Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 49, Issue 110 <br><br>Send Personal_Submersibles mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://www.whoweb.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.whoweb.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-owner@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-owner@psubs.org</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Personal_Submersibles digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: PSUBS in Islamorada FL (Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles)<br> 2. Re: Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 49, Issue 109<br> (peaceroom via Personal_Submersibles)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 12:38:35 -0400<br>From: Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles<br> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUBS in Islamorada FL<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:CABECYQ57KjRDzuCqNOSDoicskxR10zw3NsrNvnsKDw9bXXKrsw@mail.gmail.com">CABECYQ57KjRDzuCqNOSDoicskxR10zw3NsrNvnsKDw9bXXKrsw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Hi Tim,<br><br>There's been lots of planning, but offline among those who expressed an<br>interest in attending. To summarize, the dive dates are August 1-3. Snoopy<br>is at the Suhr's but probably will not be diving. Shackleton has an issue<br>that I will be trying to resolve doing canal tests, making use of the calm<br>water, davits, and brain trust on hand. I suspect the issue is that some<br>tanks are flooding faster than others. She takes a nose dive on submerging.<br>I'm not sure the issue will be resolved, but the test location and friends<br>on hand make it worth the trip. R300 will be there and is all systems go,<br>but Cliff's challenge will most likely be habitability given the<br>temperatures, so he'll try to do tows and transits submerged just to keep<br>the cabin conditions manageable.<br><br>If anyone else is interested in joining us, now would be the perfect time<br>to speak up.<br><br><br>Best,<br><br>Alec<br><br><br><br>On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:13 AM, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <<br><a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Are there any more details available for the PSUBS convention plans for<br>> Islamorada in August? Not that I can make it to the Florida Keys this<br>> time, but I haven't noticed any discussion of late.<br>><br>> Tim<br>><br>><br>><br>> *From:* Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-<br>> <a href="mailto:bounces@psubs.org">bounces@psubs.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *<a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via<br>> Personal_Submersibles<br>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 7:44 AM<br>> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<br>> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules<br>><br>><br>><br>> Yes thats correct.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> -----Original-Nachricht-----<br>><br>> Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules<br>><br>> Datum: 2017-07-20T21:37:57+0200<br>><br>> Von: "james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles" <<br>> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>><br>> An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<br>> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Hello Carsten,<br>><br>><br>><br>> Do I understand correctly that SL do not class/ certify personal<br>> submarines in the United States?<br>><br>><br>><br>> Thanks,<br>><br>><br>><br>> Greg C<br>><br>><br>> ------------------------------<br>><br>> *From:* Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <<br>> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<br>> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:09 PM<br>> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> I agree. Does a wet ambient really need to carry a fire extinguisher?<br>> The current wording is much too broad to apply against all underwater<br>> vessels and I suppose this is the basic reason why MTS is trying to make<br>> some sense out of it all.<br>><br>><br>> On 7/20/2017 12:11 PM, <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles<br>> wrote:<br>><br>> Most 1 atm rules would not fit for ambient.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Example: A ambient 1 hour underwater at 40 m releasing his drop wright<br>> will kill all occupants instandly.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Two years ago we get an request to certified such ambient bubble scooters<br>> for untrained non diver tourist.<br>><br>> We decide not to follow this invitaion. Somebody else will maybe do.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Carsten<br>><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br>> <a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br>><br>><br>><br>> [image: Image removed by sender.]<br>> <<a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon">https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon</a>><br>><br>> Virus-free. <a href="http://www.avast.com">www.avast.com</a><br>> <<a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link">https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link</a>><br>><br>> ?<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br>> <a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br>><br>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20170722/67223acd/attachment-0001.html">http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20170722/67223acd/attachment-0001.html</a>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>Name: image001.jpg<br>Type: image/jpeg<br>Size: 350 bytes<br>Desc: not available<br>URL: <<a href="http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20170722/67223acd/attachment-0001.jpg">http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20170722/67223acd/attachment-0001.jpg</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 12:39:32 -0400<br>From: peaceroom via Personal_Submersibles<br> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>,<br> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 49,<br> Issue 109<br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4xqi41rgj4tln0w4sip1j8h0.1500741572881@email.android.com">4xqi41rgj4tln0w4sip1j8h0.1500741572881@email.android.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br><br> <br>Still on for Tuesday plus 1 week. Check with Doug Suhr. Mike?<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Sent from my Samsung device<br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br>Date: 7/22/17 11:12 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>To: <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> <br>Subject: Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 49, Issue 109 <br><br>Send Personal_Submersibles mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://www.whoweb.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.whoweb.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-owner@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-owner@psubs.org</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Personal_Submersibles digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br>?? 1. Re: Submersible Rules<br>????? (<a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles)<br>?? 2. PSUBS in Islamorada FL (T Novak via Personal_Submersibles)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 16:44:11 +0200 (MEST)<br>From: "<a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles"<br> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:1500648251719.5629269.913b076d08848b366b57340b842765b636c006a3@spica.telekom.de">1500648251719.5629269.913b076d08848b366b57340b842765b636c006a3@spica.telekom.de</a>><br> <br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Yes thats correct.<br> <br> <br> <br>-----Original-Nachricht-----<br>Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules<br>Datum: 2017-07-20T21:37:57+0200<br>Von: "james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles" <br><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <br><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br> <br> <br> <br>Hello Carsten,<br> <br>Do I understand correctly that SL do not class/ certify personal submarines <br>in the United States?<br> <br>Thanks,<br> <br>Greg C<br><br><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>From: Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <br><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <br><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:09 PM<br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules<br><br><br>I agree.? Does a wet ambient really need to carry a fire extinguisher?? The <br>current wording is much too broad to apply against all underwater vessels <br>and I suppose this is the basic reason why MTS is trying to make some sense <br>out of it all.<br><br><br>On 7/20/2017 12:11 PM, <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> <<a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de</a>> <br>via Personal_Submersibles wrote:<br><br>??? Most 1 atm rules would not fit for ambient.<br>???? <br>??? Example: A ambient 1 hour underwater at 40 m releasing his drop wright<br>??? will kill all occupants instandly.<br>???? <br>??? Two years ago we get an request to certified such ambient bubble<br>??? scooters for untrained non diver tourist.<br>??? We decide not to follow this invitaion. Somebody else will maybe do.<br>???? <br>??? 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Not that I can make it to the Florida Keys this time, but I haven't noticed any discussion of late.<br><br>Tim<br><br> <br><br>From: Personal_Submersibles [<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] On Behalf Of <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles<br>Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 7:44 AM<br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules<br><br> <br><br>Yes thats correct. <br><br> <br><br> <br><br> <br><br>-----Original-Nachricht-----<br><br>Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules<br><br>Datum: 2017-07-20T21:37:57+0200<br><br>Von: "james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br><br>An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br><br> <br><br> <br><br> <br><br>Hello Carsten,<br><br> <br><br>Do I understand correctly that SL do not class/ certify personal submarines in the United States?<br><br> <br><br>Thanks,<br><br> <br><br>Greg C<br><br> <br><br>? _____? <br><br>From: Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br>Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:09 PM<br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules<br><br> <br><br><br>I agree.? Does a wet ambient really need to carry a fire extinguisher?? The current wording is much too broad to apply against all underwater vessels and I suppose this is the basic reason why MTS is trying to make some sense out of it all.<br><br><br>On 7/20/2017 12:11 PM, <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> <<a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de</a>>? via Personal_Submersibles wrote:<br><br>Most 1 atm rules would not fit for ambient. <br><br> <br><br>Example: A ambient 1 hour underwater at 40 m releasing his drop wright will kill all occupants instandly. <br><br> <br><br>Two years ago we get an request to certified such ambient bubble scooters for untrained non diver tourist. <br><br>We decide not to follow this invitaion. 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