<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div><span>Hi Ludwig,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499845902749_4160"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499845902749_3682">When I first saw these guys in the first video, I thought the same. When I look at the latest video, </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499845902749_3682">I get the feeling this is just a joke to them and they are seeking youtube subscribers. They don't seem interested in being responsible at all, and I doubt they will listen to reason. We just have to hope they move on to their next attention seeking adventure before they get hurt.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499845902749_3682">Hank</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:15 PM, via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv4201391177"><div><font color="black" size="2" face="arial">I was just going to ask you guys about these people!
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<div>I assume they are not members here, but I would say it's part of our "mission" to reach out and educate them and have them join this group. I think what they are doing is amazing and ambitious, and we should encourage what they are doing but help them make the sub safer before they go about injuring themselves and giving a bad images on personal homebuilt submersibles. </div>
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<div>Here's the link to contacting them through the website and I highly recommend everybody to contact them into joining this group so we can help them with their project.</div>
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<div class="yiv4201391177aolmail_MsoNormal">So I wonder if it helps (or is part of our mission) to reach out and educate (or warn). </div>
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<div class="yiv4201391177aolmail_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Personal_Submersibles [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org?" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org?">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] New video of bathtub submarine</div>
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<div class="yiv4201391177aolmail_MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Carsten is right. Every time there is an accident (or a repeated story about an accident) we all get closer to being shut down.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv4201391177aolmail_MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Its show just how important it is to design a proper submarine. </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"></span></div>
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<div class="yiv4201391177aolmail_MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">A drop weight will not help if the boat itself, or the hatch or the windows of such a trash submarine </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"></span></div>
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<div class="yiv4201391177aolmail_MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">At the end of the road from accidents by such people will be a new law: </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"></span></div>
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<div class="yiv4201391177aolmail_MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">And this will end all our hobby for cost reason. </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"></span></div>
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