<div dir="ltr">Hi Greg,<div><br></div><div>Can you send me an email off list please? I can see you're on this thread but it doesn't show me the actual email address, and the address I have for you bounces.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br>Alec</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 5:19 PM, james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4140"><span id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4211">Hank,</span></div><div id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4140"><span><br></span></div><div id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4140" dir="ltr"><span id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4212">I'm surprised to hear you say that the CNG sphere is too light. My "seat of the pants" engineering tells me that a CNG sphere would be plenty. Are you sure its too light? If memory serves me correctly, the sphere that Ron Allum made was 42" OD x 2.5" thick gun barrel steel and had a 1.4/1 safety factor at 38,000 ft.</span></div><div id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4140" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4140" dir="ltr"><span id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4795">What thickness acrylic do you need for the port? I'll donate a piece of 4" to the cause if that will help.</span></div><div id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4140" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4140" dir="ltr"><span id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4939">Greg</span></div><div class="m_3351442642086791338qtdSeparateBR" id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4141"><br><br></div><div class="m_3351442642086791338yahoo_quoted" id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4489" style="display:block">  <div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px" id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4488"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px" id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4487"> <div dir="ltr" id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4486"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4485"><span class=""> <hr size="1" id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_4484"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.<wbr>org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.<wbr>org</a>> <br> </span><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 26, 2017 4:10 PM<span class=""><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pressure Test<br> </span></font> </div><div><div class="h5"> <div class="m_3351442642086791338y_msg_container" id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_5016"><br><div id="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384"><div id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_5015"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13px" id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_5014"><div id="m_3351442642086791338yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498511159542_5033"><span>Greg, </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498507055074_8753"><span id="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498507055074_8752">I do not have a plan for getting on site.  I have a plan to get there, East Coast that is.  I can haul it cross country myself.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498507055074_8680"><span id="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498507055074_8751">Right now it is a dream really, not a plan.  But Elementary 3000 started that way.  I do have it mostly figured out, and I have an EFA guy lined up through Karl Stanley.   I will have two heads pressed and machined at Edmonton Exchanger in Edmonton Alberta.  My original CNG sphere plan is to light.  </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498507055074_8679"><span id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<br clear="none"><div class="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 4:48 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.<wbr>org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384m_-583211107394722100yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498476782388_5708"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384m_-583211107394722100yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498476782388_5708">Alan,</div><div dir="ltr" id="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384m_-583211107394722100yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498476782388_5708">That really turned out nice, how did you mould the polyurethane? that stuff sticks like mad. </div><div dir="ltr" id="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384m_-583211107394722100yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498476782388_5708">I would leave the white gasket, it looks fine.  Either the gasket thickness is not even or the seat is not perfectly matched to the Lenz.</div> <div class="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384m_-583211107394722100qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384m_-583211107394722100yahoo_quoted" style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><div class="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384h5"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, June 25, 2017 10:30 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs. org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div>  <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> </div></div><div class="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384m_-583211107394722100y_msg_container"><div><div class="m_3351442642086791338yiv3494869384h5"><div dir="ltr">Pressure tested my light to 1000 psi for an hour using the water blaster <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">& no leaks! I didn't have a pressure relief valve in the system as I do with<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">my air pressure set up & it was a pain getting the chamber lid off. I had<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">thought the water blaster would have leaked a bit of pressure but it didn't.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">The sealing system for the wires was a 3 layered process; encapsulating the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">wires in the epoxy, then coating the insulation for an inch up from where they came <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">out of  the epoxy, & over the epoxy with a 2 part heat activated pvc glue that <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">they use on inflatable boats. This glue worked a lot better on the pvc insulation<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">than several others I tried like E61000 (supposed to be better than shoe goo),<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">3M 5200 & polyurethane.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Over this, to tidy it up & act as a cable support, I moulded polyurethane.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">In the attached photos the white ptfe gasket that the lens sits on looks wet<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">but it is just the compression of the lens against the gasket. I don't like this<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">from a cosmetic point & may change it. The 2 objects with the light are the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">male mould for the polyurethane cable support & the silicone mould for the <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">same.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Alan</div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div>Sent from my iPad__________________________ _____________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs. org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/ listinfo.cgi/personal_ submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>  </div> </div>  </div></div></div><br clear="none">______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">
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