<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div><span>Jerry,</span></div><div><span>What are you building, how big etc? my pool is just for testing weight and balance, so it is pretty small. I can drain it and refill when </span>necessary.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1498774926377_2965">Hank</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 3:52 PM, Jerry Koontz via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div dir="ltr">Last summer when I built my shop to start building my sub, IREX. I also put in a pool, mine is a little bigger that the one you <br></div><div dir="ltr">have described. I treat it as a swimming pool. I have a filter in it and I use an ozonator system., so I don't need other chemicals.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Seems to work good.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----- Original Message -----<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "via Personal_Submersibles" <<a ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "personal submersibles" <<a ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:33:42 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 48, Issue 134<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Send Personal_Submersibles mailing list submissions to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="http://www.whoweb.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.whoweb.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-owner@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-owner@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-owner@psubs.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir="ltr">than "Re: Contents of Personal_Submersibles digest..."<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Today's Topics:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> 1. Re: test pool (hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:30:05 +0000 (UTC)<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] test pool<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:1285760585.1728679.1498771805304@mail.yahoo.com" href="mailto:1285760585.1728679.1498771805304@mail.yahoo.com">1285760585.1728679.1498771805304@mail.yahoo.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Pete,I had not thought about scum, not sure if it will form from municipal water source? ?Hank <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 7:26 AM, via Personal_Submersibles <<a ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> Hank,Any plan to treat the water or Styrofoam sides to prevent grunge? Circulation pump? Rent it out for hot tub parties?Jim<br></div><div dir="ltr">In a message dated 6/28/2017 4:25:09 PM Central Standard Time, <a ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> writes:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hugh,I was actually looking for a 20 foot can and found them to be too expensive. ?Here we pay 3,000 dollars for a can without delivery. ?I can make my pool for 1,500 dollars with concrete. ?The other thing is, the shop height is not sufficient to lift the sub over the side of the can. ?Keeping it outside would be no fun in the winter. ?I think in the floor is going to be real convenient and quick to put in and out. ?If I lived in NZ, I would go with a sea can and crane.Hank<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:09 PM, Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles <<a ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">HI Hank, <br></div><div dir="ltr">Have you looked at a container for a pool.? Cut open the top and you have 8ft x 8ft x either 20 ft or 10 ft but when empty it is moveable!! The only thing is that it may need a box section? welded along the side in the middle but it is a walking platform ? way up which is useful.? The other is that you can put a window in the side. <br></div><div dir="ltr">I saw a similar beast in a Sub business in Vancouver.? Just a thought.? Hugh <br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] On Behalf Of hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Wednesday, 28 June 2017 11:45 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] test pool<br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks' Guys,The pool will be modest, to save cost. ?The pool will be 10 feet long 6 feet wide and 6 feet deep. ?The steel I beam I have is 16 inches tall and 8 inches wide with a 3\8 web and 1\2 inch top and bottom. ?I have no idea if it is rated, but I have a good friend that does all my engineering for work stuff. ?I can get him to do the math, no?problem. ?I can easily throw a tellapost under to cut down the span when I lift to much. ? I have used this beam many times over the years to support masonry chimneys when we lift houses and being such a tall beam it is amazingly strong. ?<br></div><div dir="ltr">There is little risk of freezing because the shop will be heated. ?I could always drain it when I go away.I may have to rethink the design after Alan provided a much nicer design! ;-) <br></div><div dir="ltr">Hank <br></div><div dir="ltr">On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:34 AM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">Hank,when you said you weren't doing anything submarine for a yearI had my doubts. Below is an image that may help you in yournew indoor submarine pool design.Alan?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad<br></div><div dir="ltr">On 28/06/2017, at 1:11 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi All,Renovations on my new house are going so well that I can start renovating my new old shop. ?I built it 20 years ago so it needs a bit of help. ?I am replacing the wood centre beam with a steel I beam so I can lift and roll subs with a beam trolly. ?And the biggy is, the test pool at the end of the steel beam. ?I am installing an in floor pool. ?I am tired of driving for 1.5 hr to do a 5 minute test then drive home for 1.5 hr. ?I happen to be in the concrete cutting business also , so I can cut out the floor easy as pie. ?I will make the pool walls with styrofoam blocks filled with concrete, (ICF) ?so the sub will bump into soft walls. ?So when it is -20C outside I can go for a little sub dive. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hank<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a 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