<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4033" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4032">I like Alec's suggestion to drill a hole in the seal. In fact why don't we drill TWO holes. That way we could inject grease in one till it comes out of the other.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4034" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4035" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4053">Notice in this drawing</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4078" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4077"> <a id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4076" href="http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0191/7628/files/2002_AC_-_freshwater_motors_-_transom_-_specialtytransom_-_classic_28.pdf?793">http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0191/7628/files/2002_AC_-_freshwater_motors_-_transom_-_specialtytransom_-_classic_28.pdf?793</a></span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4106"><br>That the outer seal is labeled "seal with shield".  I have not called Minn-Kota but assume that the purpose of this "shield" is to protect against fishing line wrapped around the shaft, ruining the seal and letting water in. </div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4145"><br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4146">As far as internal pressure is concerned, the set up I described using a scuba second stage would have almost none. If internal pressure is kept low then the seals can be left the way they are and forget about it.</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4166"><br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4165">Greg C<br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4039" style="display: block;">  <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4038" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4037" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4036" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4041" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4047"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 10, 2017 4:24 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Minn-Kota Shaft Seals<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4105"><br><div id="yiv0698219007"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4180"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4184" dir="ltr">What if we just drill a little hole in the outer seal, and leave it in place?<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Best,</div><div><br clear="none">Alec</div></div><div class="yiv0698219007yqt4928690072" id="yiv0698219007yqt30709"><div class="yiv0698219007gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4179"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv0698219007gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4178">On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv0698219007gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491915063608_4177" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;">Jon,<br clear="none">
just be careful you don't damage the seal seat ( bore) or future<br clear="none">
seals may leak.<br clear="none">
You could try threading an over sized bolt in to it & pulling on the<br clear="none">
bolt with a hammer. Maybe hit the bolt in to get it started.<br clear="none">
You could also heat the housing around the bore first.<br clear="none">
There is a plethora of tools if you google on image search; but<br clear="none">
these are on the small size.<br clear="none">
 I have said before that there is a use to the outer seal as a "dust<br clear="none">
cover" function to keep muck away from the more important inner seal.<br clear="none">
A cheap protective seal that is easy to replace!<br clear="none">
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> On 11/04/2017, at 2:32 AM, Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs. org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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> Ok, what's the secret here?  Poking around one of my MK101 lower units to get familiar with it and I have hacked up the outer seal trying to remove it.  I assumed these things were entirely rubber fabricated and just fit tightly into the cylinder that surrounds the shaft.  However, it looks like they are rubber over metal and press-fit into the aft section of the motor housing.  Anyone removed these things?  I can't find anything on the internet with instructions on how to remove them.  I can't just pull them out with plyers...tried that and now I'm going to have to purchase new seals.   :)<br clear="none">
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