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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=NL link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Totally agree with you. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>With clever positioning of the connections and 2<sup>nd</sup> stage, any (condensated) water will be expelled when ascending.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>BR, Emile<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>Namens </b>james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Verzonden:</b> woensdag 29 maart 2017 15:01<br><b>Aan:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] WD - 40<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_4935"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>I have to say, I no longer think that WD40 is the best for compensating things underwater. Over time it causes plastics and rubber to harden and become brittle.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_4935"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Silicone oil is better but the other problem with oil compensation in general is that the smallest drop/leak makes a very visible oil slick around your sub (not good). Most guys are using trolling motors and they're not really tight enough to hold thin oil without leaks.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_4935"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Back in the 90s I was using air compensation- and it actually worked really well. As far as I know, Karl Stanley has also been using air compensation for a long time without problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_4935"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>It's a clean system that's not hard to set up and a small bottle of air lasts for many dives.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_4935"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_4935"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Greg C<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_4935"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5027"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5033"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5032"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5031"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5030"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5066"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> "<a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de%20via%20Personal_Submersibles">MerlinSub@t-online.de via Personal_Submersibles</a>" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5064">To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5062">Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 28, 2017 12:55 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] WD - 40</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5571"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv1742601455><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5573"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5572"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On a brushless motor it will maybe work with mineral oil. </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5574"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On motors with brushes I have bad expierence with that. </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5575"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Mineral oil is a big problem in a lake if a motor is even a little untight. </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5576"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5577"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5578"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5825"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original-Nachricht-----<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] WD - 40<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5826"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Datum: 2017-03-28T17:15:59+0200<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv1742601455yqtfd68998><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5827"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Von: "Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5828"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5829"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5832"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5831"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5830"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi Carsten, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5833"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> I did a small test trying to light the WD40 on fire. It's not as flammable as I thought it would be. I think they have improved it's non-flammability with new formulation. It's still somewhat flammable however. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I will be using a light mineral oil in my motors.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5834"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5835"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5836"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1490790963881_5837"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br>--- <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:<br><br>From: "<a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de%20via%20Personal_Submersibles">MerlinSub@t-online.de via Personal_Submersibles</a>" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] WD - 40<br>Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:22:02 +0200 (MEST)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Heat Vapor is may a problem with WD40. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>May ensure that the compensating back is big to handle that.. </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>We change to silicon oil for that reason. </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>vbr Carsten </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original-Nachricht-----<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Betreff: [PSUBS-MAILIST] WD - 40<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Datum: 2017-03-28T04:56:46+0200<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Von: "Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>An: "PSubs" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I just ran one of my motors filled with the WD40. It seemed to be very happy. I mainly just did it to clean the carbon build up out of the motor. I was surprised how sealed the motor was, it is open at one end where it mates to the gear box. I was able to fill it up without it leaking out anywhere. That could be an issue later when I want the mineral oil to fill all the voids. I might need to actually drill some holes to get some circulation . <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Brian <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________ Personal_Submersibles mailing list <span class=MsoHyperlink>Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</span> <a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id=yqtfd83565><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>