<font color='black' size='3' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'>Rather than a roll around A-frame in my restricted work space, I have a fixed hoist built in pieces and assembled in the attic with vertical knee-braced support posts bolted to the floor and a ceiling hatch through which a chain fall can operate. The trailer goes outside. I lift the sub off and set it on a beefy open bottom pallet (wood) which I can then shift around easily with a $300 pallet jack from Harbor Freight. The whole deal cost just a few hundred bucks and does not compromise my floor space at all (beyond the obvious).
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From: James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br>
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<div>I borrowed this 0.5 ton gantry from a friend.  Lifted all the heavy parts with it and I was able to lift half the sub with the chain, and the other half with a jack or engine hoist so I could move the entire boat around.  Not a massive gantry, but did the job.  I also made 2x roll around cradles to spin the hull around on.  1 had wheels on so I could move it all around.</div>

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<div class="gmail_quote">On 5 February 2017 at 00:21, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div id="m_-5122222332853447054yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486253849440_3256" dir="ltr"><span id="m_-5122222332853447054yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486253849440_3255">I think I paid 600 C for my winch.  Do not buy a cheap Chinese winch.  They burn out real fast, the Waren winch is the way to go.</span></div>

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<div class="m_-5122222332853447054yiv6109940675gmail_quote"><span>On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 9:41 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.<wbr>org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"></span><blockquote class="m_-5122222332853447054yiv6109940675gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
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