<font color='black' size='2' face='arial'>Hey guys,
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<div>I just want to let you guys know I received the K-350 plans yesterday!</div>
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<div>I need to now just take some time and look through them and start writing down the modifications I want to do.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Rick,</div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294AppleMailSignature">I am just finalising the design. I took a semi- finished light to a</div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294AppleMailSignature">lighting expert friend today, who is going to analyse the LED for the optimum</div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294AppleMailSignature">amperage. He says that finding the LEDs sweet spot will enable it to run cool </div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294AppleMailSignature">enough for me to go with an acrylic lens rather than glass as I had intended. </div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294AppleMailSignature">Will keep you in the loop with regard to progress, but shouldn't be too far off.</div>
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On 2/02/2017, at 3:26 PM, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Thanks for the input! Do you have any construction pictures of the lights and housings or just a finished picture? </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.<wbr>org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2790" dir="ltr"><span id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2801">the lights I am making are 80mm diameter x 70mm long.</span></div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2849" dir="ltr"><span id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2974">There is a 100mm flange for mounting that also holds the lens in.</span></div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2973" dir="ltr"><span id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2972">So it will fit in to a 80mm diameter hole & bolt or screw to surrounding material.</span></div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2850" dir="ltr"><span id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2966">The LEDs are 80W at 105 lm/W, so 8,400 lm. However I may not drive them that</span></div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2965" dir="ltr"><span id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2964">hard, depending on how hot they get in water.</span></div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2989" dir="ltr"><span id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_3000">I am building a 1 person sub similar to Cliff's R300 & will be having</span></div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2968" dir="ltr"><span id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2967">two arranged like car head lights + 1 either side, 1 looking backward</span></div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2969" dir="ltr"><span id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_3001">& 1 slightly longer as a spot light.</span></div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_3021" dir="ltr"><span id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_3020">I may use the same design as navigation lights, with colored lenses & just back</span></div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_3045" dir="ltr"><span>off the power to them.</span></div>
<div id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_3046" dir="ltr"><span>Cheers Alan </span></div>
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<div id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2889">That's quite a makeover! I agree, when I bought my plans, it seemed I was having to call Ketteredge a lot for clarification and would of welcomed a cleaned up set. </div>
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<div id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2888">On another note, I am getting ready to fabricate all my external light housings and would like to hear from anyone who is using LED lighting in their housings as far as how many lumans they are and what diameter they are etc. </div>
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<div class="m_-6773127488859785294h5">On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.o<wbr>rg</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"></div>
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<div id="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485986120304_2882">Spent a couple of months last year working on the design of a modified K-350. I found he original K-350 plans to be pretty weak. Changes made were:</div>
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<ol style="list-style-type:decimal"><li style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal">
<div style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Removed aft external motor and prop and replaced
with two fixed Minn Kota 101 thruster with kort nozzle like I have on the R300</div>
</li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Replaced vertical thrusters with two fixed Minn
Kota 101 thrusters with kort nozzle</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Propulsion and depth station keeping all fly by wire
with joystick control</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Move air tanks (two 100 SCF aluminum scuba tanks) outside hull old location of main
propulsion motor</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">PLC for control of all systems (same as R300)</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">HMI and joystick on mobile to permit operation
from prone, sitting or standing position.</div>
</li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Replaced life support with fully automated design
used on R300</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Moved electrical components into three
electrical boxes on or near aft<span>
</span>elliptical head</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Added sensors for main and auxiliary battery
voltage and current, ambient water pressure and temperature, cabin pressure,
temperature, and humidly, compass heading, boat roll and pitch, boat altitude
and speed.<span> </span>Life support system has
sensors for CO2, O2 concentrations, O2 tank pressure, mass rate of O2 during O2
makeup. Pressure sensor for HP air bank and regulated air pressure.</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Increased main battery capacity to 400 Ah <span> </span>which required increasing the battery pod
diameter to 16” OD and 47” seam to seam</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Replaced the main and auxiliary battery banks with 16 OPTIMA BATTERIES
BLUE TOP DEEP CYCLE MARINE BATTERY GROUP D34M.<span>
</span>12 for main buss and 4 for auxiliary buss. 8 batteries per pod</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Widened the spacing on battery pods to 38”</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Added two additional viewports </div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Added external LED lights</div>
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</font>Added compass/pitch/roll sensors off R300<font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span><br clear="none"></span></font></div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Changed design of battery pods detachable heads to
flange style</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Redesigned the MBT and VBT controls.<span> </span></div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Utilize Hugh Fulton pancake style pneumatically
operated MBT vent valves</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Modified MBTs by closing the bottoms</div>
</li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">lengthened VBT to 18” seam to seam to increase
the volume to 8.75 gals</div>
</li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Added compass/pitch/roll sensors off R300</div>
</li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Built out boat in Autodesk Inventor
professional.</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Drawing package updated, 51 assembly drawings
and 160 part drawings</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">With mods, the current boat weight is 4,707 lbs,
without pilot or passenger</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">With mods, the current boat submerged
displacement<span> </span>is 4,866 lbs, </div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Buoyancy of boat with VBT and MBT fully blown is
5,849 lbf</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Boat Reserve of buoyancy is 9.2%</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Cliff</div>
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<div class="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yiv8875656872gmail_quote"><span>On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Philippe Robert via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs. org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"></span><blockquote class="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yiv8875656872gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><span>
<div dir="ltr">Nice for the list ! I can't wait to read all the suggested modifications ans specs !
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<div class="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yiv8875656872gmail_quote"><span>2017-01-29 9:22 GMT-05:00 via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.o rg</a>></span>:<br clear="none"></span><blockquote class="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yiv8875656872gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><span><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">Emile,
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<div>I actually already started a list on what I want to improve on the K350!</div>
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<div>I was actually thinking about having a 1 meter hull dia</div>
<div>Improve depth rating to around 300 meters</div>
<div>Look into improving the ballast tanks</div>
<div>Have the thrusters be controlled by a joystick</div>
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<div class="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yiv8875656872MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">The K350 is a nice sub and the plans might be a good start .</span></div>
<div class="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yiv8875656872MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Mind some points are a bit outdated.</span></div>
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<div class="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yiv8875656872MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">If I build a K350:</span></div>
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<div class="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yiv8875656872MsoNormal"><b><span>Van:</span></b><span> Personal_Submersibles [<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org?">mailto:personal_submersibles- bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>Namens </b>via Personal_Submersibles
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<b>Verzonden:</b> zaterdag 28 januari 2017 23:36<br clear="none">
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<b>Onderwerp:</b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] K-350 plans</div>
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<div class="m_-6773127488859785294m_-5617653437532185696yiv8875656872MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I bought the plans at the end of December and still haven't received them. I also sent an email off to <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:sales@psubs.org">sales@psubs.org</a> around two weeks ago and haven't gotten a reply.</span></div>
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