<div dir="ltr">Hey Cliff<div><br></div><div>That's quite a makeover! I agree, when I bought my plans, it seemed I was having to call Ketteredge a lot for clarification and would of welcomed a cleaned up set. </div><div><br></div><div>On another note, I am getting ready to fabricate all my external light housings and would like to hear from anyone who is using LED lighting in their housings as far as how many lumans they are and what diameter they are etc. </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div>Rick</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Spent a couple of months last year working on the design of a modified K-350. I found he original K-350 plans to be pretty weak. Changes made were:</div><div><br></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font></div><ol style="list-style-type:decimal"><li style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Removed aft external motor and prop and replaced
with two fixed Minn Kota 101 thruster with kort nozzle like I have on the R300</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Replaced vertical thrusters with two fixed Minn
Kota 101 thrusters with kort nozzle</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Propulsion and depth station keeping all fly by wire
with joystick control</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Move air tanks (two 100 SCF aluminum scuba tanks) outside hull old location of main
propulsion motor</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">PLC for control of all systems (same as R300)</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">HMI and joystick on mobile to permit operation
from prone, sitting or standing position.</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Replaced life support with fully automated design
used on R300</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Moved electrical components into three
electrical boxes on or near aft<span>
</span>elliptical head</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Added sensors for main and auxiliary battery
voltage and current, ambient water pressure and temperature, cabin pressure,
temperature, and humidly, compass heading, boat roll and pitch, boat altitude
and speed.<span> </span>Life support system has
sensors for CO2, O2 concentrations, O2 tank pressure, mass rate of O2 during O2
makeup. Pressure sensor for HP air bank and regulated air pressure.</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Increased main battery capacity to 400 Ah <span> </span>which required increasing the battery pod
diameter to 16” OD and 47” seam to seam</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Replaced the main and auxiliary battery banks with 16 OPTIMA BATTERIES
BLUE TOP DEEP CYCLE MARINE BATTERY GROUP D34M.<span>
</span>12 for main buss and 4 for auxiliary buss. 8 batteries per pod</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Widened the spacing on battery pods to 38”</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Added two additional viewports </p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Added external LED lights</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font>Added compass/pitch/roll sensors off R300<font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span><br></span></font></p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Changed design of battery pods detachable heads to
flange style</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Redesigned the MBT and VBT controls.<span> </span></p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Utilize Hugh Fulton pancake style pneumatically
operated MBT vent valves</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Modified MBTs by closing the bottoms</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">lengthened VBT to 18” seam to seam to increase
the volume to 8.75 gals</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Added compass/pitch/roll sensors off R300</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Built out boat in Autodesk Inventor
professional.</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Drawing package updated, 51 assembly drawings
and 160 part drawings</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">With mods, the current boat weight is 4,707 lbs,
without pilot or passenger</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">With mods, the current boat submerged
displacement<span> </span>is 4,866 lbs, </p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0pt">Buoyancy of boat with VBT and MBT fully blown is
5,849 lbf</p></li><li style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:10pt">Boat Reserve of buoyancy is 9.2%</p></li></ol><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:10pt">Cliff</div><div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Philippe Robert via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.<wbr>org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Nice for the list ! I can't wait to read all the suggested modifications ans specs !<div><br></div><div>Philippe</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-01-29 9:22 GMT-05:00 via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.o<wbr>rg</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">Emile,
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<div>I actually already started a list on what I want to improve on the K350!</div>
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<div>I was actually thinking about having a 1 meter hull dia</div>
<div>Improve depth rating to around 300 meters</div>
<div>Look into improving the ballast tanks</div>
<div>Have the thrusters be controlled by a joystick</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">The K350 is a nice sub and the plans might be a good start .</span></div>
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<b>Onderwerp:</b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] K-350 plans</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">I bought the plans at the end of December and still haven't received them. I also sent an email off to <a href="mailto:sales@psubs.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sales@psubs.org</a> around two weeks ago and haven't gotten a reply.</span></div>
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