<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div><span>James,</span></div><div><span>No bladder, nothing, fill er up and go diving. I drain the oil in the fall and put new in the spring. It takes on a tiny bit of water, but no bother because it is fresh water, not that horrible salty stuff you dive in. But in the past I found that hose is to stiff, I like the rubber bladder idea best. I have also used little air cylinders threaded strait onto the motor housing.</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Monday, December 5, 2016 8:45 AM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6021653171"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Antoine\Hank.</div><div><br clear="none">Thanks guys. drinking bladder looks good. I was thinking of a furniture lift bag, which is very similar. I use a hot water bottle for the aft motor.</div><div> </div><div>Hank, what do you use for a bladder?</div><div> </div><div>Thanks</div><div>James </div></div><div class="yiv6021653171gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv6021653171gmail_quote">On 5 December 2016 at 13:18, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv6021653171gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv6021653171yqt4004631921" id="yiv6021653171yqt67056"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><div id="yiv6021653171m_-6973601674998661380yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480943301489_15335"><span>James,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv6021653171m_-6973601674998661380yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480943301489_15335"><span id="yiv6021653171m_-6973601674998661380yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480943301489_15775">I put my fill plug under the prop, in the flat end cap, and it works like a dream. </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv6021653171m_-6973601674998661380yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480943301489_15335"><span>Hank</span></div> <div class="yiv6021653171m_-6973601674998661380qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6021653171m_-6973601674998661380yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div class="yiv6021653171h5"> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, December 5, 2016 5:37 AM, Antoine Delafargue via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs. org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> </div></div><div class="yiv6021653171m_-6973601674998661380y_msg_container"><div><div class="yiv6021653171h5"><div id="yiv6021653171m_-6973601674998661380yiv6057255083"><div>Hi frank<div>I have done something like that for my prop shaft seal oil filled compartment. But first i removed the hose and filled with a serynge with long steel needle. Then put the tube and filled it with the serynge. </div><div>The tube is flexible and transparent, from endurance sport platypus drinking bladder<br clear="none">Works well</div><div>Regards </div><div>Antoine <br clear="none">On Monday, December 5, 2016, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs. org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><div class="yiv6021653171m_-6973601674998661380yiv6057255083yqt4043277881" id="yiv6021653171m_-6973601674998661380yiv6057255083yqt98767"><blockquote class="yiv6021653171m_-6973601674998661380yiv6057255083gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi All</div><div> </div><div>I have been talking to Rick about motor compensation which has got me thinking.</div><div> </div><div>I originally did my motors like other psubbers have done with the rubber tubes around the sides, but have found them a real pain to fill. Problem is the location of the tube, plus the tiny bit of protruding pipe nipple on the inside.</div><div> </div><div>So, I modified the motors by drilling a hole in the top part of the aluminium endcap and use that now as the vent\final fill. Its better, but still awkward.</div><div> </div><div>I have suggested to Rick this idea, which I am tempted to adopt myself. Blocking off the existing side mounted pipe nipples and filling\venting\compensating all from the one top hole. There would be a rubber bulb of some sort on the end of the pipe. 2x pictures show filling and operation. Appologies for rubbish drawings, im at work.</div><div> </div><div>What does everyone think?</div><div> </div><div><img width="535" height="397" src="cid:DpS16dO9uFzOwz1hPNPe"></div><div><img width="535" height="380" src="cid:hrISKIud1Gt2Kgh4jPIw"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div>
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