<font color='black' size='2' face='arial'>I was talking with Scott and he also mentioned that it would take longer then two years to built a 1 atm sub.
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<div>What I'm looking at now is building a dry ambient submarine.  I would learn a lot with building it plus when I move aboard, I can set down and start building a 1 atm sub.  I found a 3 man dry ambient submarine built in New Zealand by Brent Shaw that I'm looking at down scaling for one person.</div>

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<div>I should also probably mention that I'm also a scuba diver so a dry ambient submarine won't be much of a problem.</div>

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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_4788"><span>Hi Ludwig, welcome.</span></div>

<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_4787"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_4786">If you only have 2 years you won't have enough time to finish</span></div>

<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_4820" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_4819">a 1 atmosphere submarine. Small or large, it will still need </span></div>

<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_4818" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_5315">a similar amount of time. I built a dry ambient, which was a </span></div>

<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_5217" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_5085">great learning experience, but is not as safe as a 1 atmosphere.</span></div>

<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_5275" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_5279">    Take up Scotts offer of a visit, you will learn a lot from that.</span></div>

<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_5278" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_5277">Also read through the "Busby manned submersibles" book. </span></div>

<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_5322" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_5286">There is a link on the Psub site o an online version, but most</span></div>

<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_5323" dir="ltr"><span>psubbers end up buying a copy of it.</span></div>

<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_5324" dir="ltr"><span>Cheers Alan</span></div>

<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479754440231_5325" dir="ltr"><span>New Zealand</span><br>
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<div>I'm looking at a small project that would teach me all the systems so when I move across the pond, I would like to build something along the Euronaut size or a tiny bit smaller.</div>



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<div>I've also debated if I should do a wet-sub instead because if I go that route, I wouldn't have to build a pressure hull.  That would only limit me down to 130 foot allowed for recreational diving.</div>



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