<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479071163783_6508"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479071163783_6509">"Hold on a year,",, are not words I use ;-) I will be onto my next sub by then lol. I have to get Elementary done this winter so I can get onto my next project.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479071163783_6508"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479071163783_6567">Hank</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, November 13, 2016 1:43 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2375677163"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2392"><span>Hank,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2410"><span id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2430">hold on another year, help is on it's way!</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2428"><span id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2427">Here is a lithium Sulphur battery they have trialed, that goes to 6km deep.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2429"><span id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2436"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2435" target="_blank" href="http://www.power-eetimes.com/news/high-performance-lithium-sulphur-batteries-deep-dive-underwater-vehicles-move-step-closer">http://www.power-eetimes.com/news/high-performance-lithium-sulphur-batteries-deep-dive-underwater-vehicles-move-step-closer</a></span></div><div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2506">The problem they are having with developing Lithium Sulphur batteries for the automobile market,</div><div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2538">is the number of charge cycles they can get out of them; however we don't take our</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2579">submarines out every day, & the number of charge cycles is probably acceptable</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2664">for a submersible application.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2685">I have read that the price in the future will be cheaper per kilowatt than a lead acid battery.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2686">Alan<br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2467"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv2375677163qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2352"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv2375677163yahoo_quoted" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2407" style="display:block;"> <div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2406" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2405" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv2375677163yqt3455889459" id="yiv2375677163yqt93966"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2409"> <font id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2408" face="Arial" size="2"> </font><hr id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2432" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 14, 2016 8:26 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] battery compensation<br clear="none"> </div> <div class="yiv2375677163y_msg_container" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2404"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv2375677163"><div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2403"><div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479069093039_2402" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3432"><span id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3550">Hank,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3492"><span id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3493">if you tried to seal each battery individually, you would still have to</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3491"><span id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3494">link the batteries in series. So this would mean sealing the 2 wires</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3545"><span id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3544">coming out of each battery & sealing where they connect. That is</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3547"><span id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3549">if I am </span><span id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3548">understanding what you want to do correctly.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3609"><span id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3608">There is "Deep Sea Power & light's" Sea battery, that we have </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3635"><span id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3636">mentioned before, but this is a sealed lead acid battery.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3646"><span id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3645">The busby book has a section on battery compensating.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3639"><span id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3640">There are a lot of problems for not much benefit.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3668"><span>Alan</span></div><div class="yiv2375677163qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3436"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv2375677163yahoo_quoted" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3478" style="display:block;"> <div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3477" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3476" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv2375677163yqt3155292281" id="yiv2375677163yqt49482"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3475"> <font id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3562" face="Arial" size="2"> </font><hr id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3561" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 14, 2016 2:01 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] battery compensation<br clear="none"> </div> <div class="yiv2375677163y_msg_container" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3671"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv2375677163"><div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3670"><div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3669" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479041151307_8503">Hi guys,</div><div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479041151307_8503">I would like to switch Elementary from internal batteries to external batteries and flood them with oil. Has anyone tried to make a cap for the top of a battery with a rubber top to hold in oil. So instead of building a box around the battery, simply encapsulate the openings of the battery body. Again this is in an effort to keep the sub light.</div><div id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479041151307_8503">Hank</div></div></div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv2375677163yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479064019683_3677" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv2375677163yqt3155292281" id="yiv2375677163yqt57658">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div><br><div class="yqt3455889459" id="yqt63382">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>