<div dir="ltr"><div>Stephen, the "too dangerous" faction is alive and kicking but so is the "Dream Big" faction. It will be interesting so see which faction wins out. If the "too dangerous" faction wins, I may end up building the boat myself just for fun! As Carsten says, everyone needs a least two Psubs!</div><div><br></div><div>As to selling these modified K-350 plans, not sure what Jon's position on this would be as he/Psubs has sole rights to distribute original K-350 plans. At some point I might pick his brain on what we could do with these plans. For now I just want to build the boat off these plans! </div><div><br></div><div>Cliff</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Stephen Fordyce via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Cliff,</div><div>Great work - I could not think of a more exciting high school project than building a submarine!! That said, I'm amazing someone hasn't shut it down for being "too dangerous".</div><div><br></div><div>I haven't looked at the K-boat plans for a while, but I also recall some reading between the lines - I had considered converting them to CAD to make for a starting point for alterations but never got to around it. Perhaps you would considering making them available (with a disclaimer, etc.) for distribution/sale with the K-boat plans on the PSUBS website.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Steve</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.<wbr>org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div lang="EN-NZ" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Hi Cliff,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">You have been a busy fellow. I am most impressed. Wish you were on my project.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Cheers Hugh<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles-<wbr>bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 4 November 2016 10:57 AM<span><br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br></span></span><div><div class="m_4732706634464710037h5"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PLC input question<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class="m_4732706634464710037h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Let me know when you get ready to spec the PLC/HMI, I have been really happy with the equipment I have using and can share.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Been working on two Psub projects. The first is working with a local high school on a modified K350 build. I spent the last two month detailing the boat with Autodesk Inventor and now have a pretty complete package of drawings and specs for a modern K-350. The original K-350 plans are fairly basic and required quite a bit of reading between the lines. Changes I made to the original K-350 design were more battery capacity and larger and wider apart battery pods to accommodate, Minn Kota 101 based Kort thrusters like I use for my boat, and totally new electronics including PLC and HMI, full life support including BIBS and added two more viewports. The MBT system has been totally changed. I am using two of Hugh Fulton's pneumatic pancake style valves to blow the MBTs and am using Swagelok 3-Way valves to operate the MBT and VBT. Team is waiting on final budget approval before we pull the trigger on the project. Team has already received $15K in equipment donations.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On the R300, I am in the process of switching control of the compass/pitch/roll sensor which uses RS232 serial communication from an RS232 port on the PLC base to a dedicated PLC coprocessor. I have had some intermittency issues with this sensor over the years and I am trying this to see if this solves the problem. What I really need is an O Scope that has RS232 investigation feature. With the work on the K-350 project, I have just not had any spare time on my boat. Hope to rectify that shortly. Got a consulting job I have to knock out next week in Oklahoma City then I am free for the rest of the year to play with psubs.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Regards<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Cliff<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.o<wbr>rg</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div id="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387m_-9087867297788367062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478154411107_15500"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"">Thanks Cliff,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"">no doubt I'll have more questions when I start<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"">trying to nail down what PLC, HMI & software.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"">Have just ordered 2 of those digital to 0-5V converters<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"">for my remote system. Will give an update on them when<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387m_-9087867297788367062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478154411107_15579"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"">they are up & running.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387m_-9087867297788367062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478154411107_15578"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"">Anything noteworthy on your R300 modifications? (if<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387m_-9087867297788367062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478154411107_15576"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"">you have time for an update.)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387m_-9087867297788367062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478154411107_15575"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"">Cheers Alan<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387m_-9087867297788367062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478154411107_15499"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387m_-9087867297788367062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478154411107_15495"><div id="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387m_-9087867297788367062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478154411107_15494"><div id="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387m_-9087867297788367062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478154411107_15493"><div id="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387m_-9087867297788367062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478154411107_15492"><div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-align:center"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><hr width="100%" size="1" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b id="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387m_-9087867297788367062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478154411107_15582"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.o<wbr>rg</a>><br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.o<wbr>rg</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 4, 2016 5:06 AM<br><b id="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387m_-9087867297788367062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478154411107_15584">Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PLC input question</span><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div id="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387m_-9087867297788367062yiv9320286101"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"">Alan, for PLC analog input devices, normally they are either 0-5VDC, 0-10VDC or 4-20mA. You can by analog input modules for the PLC in any of these flavors. Most popular are 0-5VDC and 4-20mA.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"">Cliff<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div id="m_4732706634464710037m_-7786119693650479387m_-9087867297788367062yiv9320286101yqt89903"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"">On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.o<wbr>rg</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black;font-family:"helveticaneue","serif"">What is the best sensor input to get for a PLC or doesn't it matter.<br>The pressure sensors I am coming across have either 0-5V output<br>or some amp range.<br>Wish I had heard Jon's talk at the last convention. 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