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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">I original search for a second hand military one - small size 450 ts or so. </span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: Taurus sub</p>
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<div class="yiv9807758465MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;">On Sunday, September 4, 2016 6:28 PM, xxx xxxxx <<a href="mailto:mp13@live.ca" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">mp13@live.ca</a>> wrote:</span></div>
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