<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div><span>Alan,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471387303674_6764" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471387303674_6832">There is a solution for rescue at 1,000 feet,, escape pod :-) I think the DW has enough absorbent between the two scrubbers for 36 hr plus they always dive with a second DW on deck. They throw all the absorbent away after every dive I am told. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1471387303674_6763"><span>Hank</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 4:42 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3593729730"><div><div>Does anyone know much about the Deep Worker scrubbers?</div><div>The new ones aren't cylindrical, they are an oblong shape that fits the contour</div><div>of the subs hull either side of your legs. There are 2 of them with fans on the front. </div><div>I cant see how you would change out the absorbent during a dive as there would </div><div>not be much room when you are in there. Or do they hold the full amount in both of them.</div><div>If this is so, I presume they run one at a time, so is the redundant scrubber sealed</div><div>in any way prior to use?</div><div>Alan <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div><div class="yiv3593729730yqt8097121772" id="yiv3593729730yqtfd98480"><br clear="none">On 17/08/2016, at 10:12 am, Scott Waters via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv3593729730yqt8097121772" id="yiv3593729730yqtfd22931"><blockquote type="cite"><div></div></blockquote></div></div><div class="yiv3593729730yqt8097121772" id="yiv3593729730yqtfd50671"><div><div>This is for Pisces VI. With rescue missions easily taking 2 to 3 days to assymble, I wanted the extra allowance. There is enough space in the cockpit to handle the extra sorb. On Trustworthy, it is a different story. Lol</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thank you,</div><div>Scott Waters</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv3593729730composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757;">Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone</div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-------- Original message --------<br clear="none">From: Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none">Date: 08/16/2016 5:03 PM (GMT-06:00) <br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] CO2 Sorb <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr">I'm not sure how you're doing with your weight budget, but the Sodasorb weight really can become a space and weight issue when smaller boats go for compliance with the 72 hour rule. I know there's a competing product that's something like a pre-impregnated fabric instead of granules. Sorry, I can't recall the brand name. But it would be interesting to compare the weight and volume implications.<div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thanks,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Alec</div></div><div class="yiv3593729730gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv3593729730gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:54 PM, via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv3593729730gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Thanks Cliff. I was also running the numbers on Pisces VI. We will have the following for 1 pilot and 3 observers for a 8 hour mission time and 5 day emergency use<br clear="none">
*400 cuft O2 outside hull emergency use (five 80cuft tanks)<br clear="none">
*160-81 cuft O2 inside hull for up to 8hr mission use (two 80cuft bottles allowing for full discharge)<br clear="none">
*144 lbs sodasorb emergency use (three 48lb jugs)<br clear="none">
*12 lbs sodasorb for up to 8hr mission use (two scrubbers loaded)<br clear="none">
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Thank you,<br clear="none">
Scott Waters<br clear="none">
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> From: Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs. org</a>><br clear="none">
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> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] CO2 Sorb<br clear="none">
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> Scott, ABS uses a value of 0.115 lbm CO2 generated per hour per<br clear="none">
> occupant. Sotasorb HP specification says it can absorb 41% CO2 by<br clear="none">
> weight. This comes out to 3.56 Persons-hours per pound of SodaSorb HP<br clear="none">
> which is close the number Alec posted. ABS rules call for full life<br clear="none">
> support for 72 hours plus normal duty time. If you assume normal duty<br clear="none">
> time is 8 hours, then the life support system would need to last for<br clear="none">
> 80 hours. For one person this would give 22.5 lbs of SodaSorbHP and<br clear="none">
> for two, 45 lbs for this duration.<br clear="none">
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> Actual consumption rate is dependent on a lot of parameters, such as<br clear="none">
> temperature, humidly, mass of occupants and design of scrubber to<br clear="none">
> mention just a few.<br clear="none">
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> Cliff<br clear="none">
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> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:02 AM, via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none">
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> > Hey guys, Just doing a safety check. What is the rough amount of CO2<br clear="none">
> > sorb that is needed per occupant per day (normally measured in<br clear="none">
> > weight)? I have a 48lb jug in Trustworthy which I know is enough for<br clear="none">
> > 2 people for 3 days. I am just planning on putting it in premeasured<br clear="none">
> > sealed bags for better storage and was wondering about how much does<br clear="none">
> > it actually take.<br clear="none">
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> > Thank you,<br clear="none">
> > Scott Waters<br clear="none">
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