<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Doug,</div><div>I have seen a number of inflatable pontoon systems for lifting boats</div><div>above the water. They all used pumps to pump out the water.</div><div>I wonder if there is merit in designing an inflatable pontoon that you could</div><div>lower, & drive Snoopy on to, then fill with air & tow. It would</div><div>solve the problem of boarding in rough seas, as you could climb in while</div><div>it was up on the pontoons. The pontoons would also make it easier to</div><div>board without bashing your boat against the sub.</div><div>You would need a large barge if you are looking at hoisting in to the water.</div><div>It wasn't the easiest in perfect conditions in to your canal.</div><div>I think they use a ballasted platform in Hawaii ( similar idea) Scott might confirm </div><div>that as he has just been there.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 3/08/2016, at 12:50 pm, Douglas Suhr via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Good point Alan, wave height is an issue on more than one hand with Snoopy (as I'm sure you're aware). <div><br></div><div>BTW, we're starting to look seriously into building or buying a barge for the Keys. We've got to get Snoopy out to the oceanside more quickly than by towing her. ~ Doug S. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span>Doug,</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>sounds like a cunning plan!</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>Be aware that it might work when the water surface is flat,</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>but fail if there is too much of a wave.av</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>I'm with Jon on having a descent surface communication system.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>Alan</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span></span><br></div><div><br><br></div><div style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Douglas Suhr via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 3, 2016 8:29 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] OTS transducer location<br> </font> </div><div><div class="h5"> <div><br><div><div><div dir="ltr">'Sound' thoughts Jon... :) ~ Doug S. </div><div><br clear="none"><div><div>On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><br clear="none">
Nothing wrong with Radio comms on surface, in fact you should have a VHF for ocean water anyway. Depending upon the location of the transducer on the vessel, at the surface you may find you don't have enough water column to communicate effectively. Test first.<br clear="none">
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Dad and I are planning to try a little experiment in regards to the mounting location of Snoopy's transducer array. The idea is to mount the array on a hinged whip behind the hatch. While she's on the surface the transducer will be under the waterline for surfaced communication with surface support (if the boat and sub are out of earshot of one another). When Snoopy submerges, the array's float lifts the mast erect over the sub, becoming the tallest part of the vessel while submerged.<br clear="none">
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Just an idea, but we're keen to try it when we get the chance. One possible drawback is entanglement danger... we've been thinking a lot about that lately. ~ Doug S.<br clear="none">
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