<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span>James,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2822" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2821">also in a lot of cases, the solenoid can just clip on to the valve</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2795" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2794">& can be bought as a separate item. In this case it would need sealing on</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2819" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2818">to the valve to stop water getting up & around the iron plunger</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2820" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2845">that the electromagnet actuates.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2855" dir="ltr"><span>Alan</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2793"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2678" style="display: block;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2677" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2676" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2675" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2674" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2832"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 23, 2016 11:35 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] amp draw<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2797"><br><div id="yiv0157916956"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2803"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466642420449_2802" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3577"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3578">Hi James,</span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3579"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3580">Hugh is the expert in valves & he did tell me he hadn't found</span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3581" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3582">a suitable solenoid valve for exhausting the ballast tanks.</span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3583" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3584"> There are 3 types of solenoid valves, direct action, which relies on a strong solenoid to </span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3585" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3586">open the valve. Indirect actuation which uses the solenoid but relies on the pressure in</span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3587" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3588">the system to open the valve, & force lifting which is a combination of the two.</span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3589" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3590">You want the direct action or force lifting that don't require the pressure of the medium</span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3591" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3592">to open them. Of the two I would say direct action, as it probably is less complicated & has less</span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3593" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3594">components to corrode. The direct action are normally at least 24V as they require more power.</span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3595" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3596">One thing to look out for is the max operating pressure, as the ambient pressure at depth may exceed this.</span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3597" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3598">Article here on solenoids for corrosive environments.</span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3599" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3600">http://www.connexion-developments.com/solenoid-valves-aggressive-media.html</span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3897" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3602"> You will need to pot the wires going in to the solenoid of course.</span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3896" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3908">I had my 3 ballast tanks with solenoids operating remotely from a playstation controller, &<br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3603" clear="none"></span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3963" dir="ltr">it was great having that fine quick control. I also had solenoids for filling, these were in the hull & are great as </div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3985" dir="ltr">long as you keep any water from backflowing in to the valve. These can be indirect action.</div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_4004" dir="ltr">Let me know if you see something suitable. Congratulations on the boat purchase, look forward</div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_4011" dir="ltr">to the dive videos.</div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_4003" dir="ltr">Cheers Alan<br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3605" clear="none"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3606" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv0157916956qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv0157916956yahoo_quoted" id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3868" style="display: block;"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956yahoo_quoted" id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3924" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956yahoo_quoted" id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3919" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956yqt6156793520" id="yiv0157916956yqt76137"><div class="yiv0157916956yahoo_quoted" id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3011" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" dir="ltr"> <font id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3611" face="Arial" size="2"> </font><hr size="1" id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3612"> <b id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3613"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3614" style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3615" clear="none"> <b id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3616"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3617" style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3618" clear="none"> <b id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3619"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3620" style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 23, 2016 2:41 AM<br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3621" clear="none"> <b id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3622"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3623" style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] amp draw<br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3624" clear="none"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956yahoo_quoted" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956y_msg_container" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3626" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv0157916956y_msg_container" id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466606151977_4077" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3631">Sure can James, but I am sure Alan will chime in-he is up on the salt water issues. </span></div><div class="yiv0157916956y_msg_container" id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466606151977_4077" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Maybe Hugh knows of a salt water capable valve. I am so luck to be in fresh water ;-)</div><div class="yiv0157916956y_msg_container" id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466606151977_4077" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Hank</div><div class="yiv0157916956y_msg_container" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3176" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3635" clear="none"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3636" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv0157916956yahoo_quoted" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956yahoo_quoted" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956yahoo_quoted" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956yqt6156262142" id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3037" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><font id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3642" face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 8:19 AM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3643" clear="none"></font></div><div class="yiv0157916956yqt6156262142" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3644" clear="none"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3645" clear="none"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956y_msg_container" id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3033" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr">hmm, sounds interesting. Can you send me a link? They would have to be ok in salt water though. But could test them or maybe modify?</div><div class="yiv0157916956gmail_extra" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3651" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv0157916956gmail_quote" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On 22 June 2016 at 13:26, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3653" dir="ltr"><<a id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3654" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3655" clear="none"></div><blockquote id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3656" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-left: 1ex; font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div class="yiv0157916956yqt9977140337" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3661">James,</span></div><div class="yiv0157916956yqt9977140337" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3663">Nice boat, I like the tender on back. The cabin is a very nice feature. </span></div><div class="yiv0157916956yqt9977140337" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3665">The </span>solenoid system is simply air\water solenoid vents. They amount directly to the MBT so there is no chance of an air trap in a line. As Alan pointed out, there may be an issue with salt water. I am sure there is a creative way to overcome that though. You just screw them on and run a couple of wires, it is that easy.</div><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3666"><font id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3667" color="#888888"></font></span><div class="yiv0157916956yqt9977140337" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr">Hank</div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3672" clear="none"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3673" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><font id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3678" face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 5:54 AM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <<a id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3679" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3680" clear="none"></font></div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3681" clear="none"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3682" clear="none"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr">Hank, can you elaborate on the solenoid system? Sounds interesting.</div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr">Check out my new boat to be used as submarine tender. Im fed up with begging other people to help on dive days. </div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr">Whilst its not the biggest boat for subbing, its convenient and also good for the odd day trip and fishing etc as well....</div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3867" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><img width="562" height="253" id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3694" data-id="be65fa3d-b5d3-16c3-be28-238be5697f26"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3695" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3866" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"> </div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3699" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv0157916956h5" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On 22 June 2016 at 12:17, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3701" dir="ltr"><<a id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3702" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3703" clear="none"></div><blockquote id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3704" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-left: 1ex; font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3709">Alan,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr">I am not calling the guards Kort nozzles because a Kort nozzle is a precision made part intended to boost performance. What I have is a random size heavy wall short piece of pipe around the prop with a layer of ss to extend the coverage. I removed the ss layer so the prop is open just to see what happens. The motor performance is good-the prop noise just needs to be investigated. The new cartridge seals are a dream.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr">I am welding on permanent MBT bottom vent extensions today. When I installed the solenoid vents, I removed my temporary vent extensions thinking I did not need them. Turns out the vent extensions are crucial. I ended up only putting two solenoids on the front of the rear tanks as well as a vent line to take care of that pesky little air trap in front of the vertical thrusters. The whole venting system works like a charm now. I have to say, I sure like the solenoid system-it would work nicely on a K sub also.</div><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3712"><font id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3713" color="#888888"></font></span><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr">Hank </div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3865" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3718" clear="none"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3719" clear="none"></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><font id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3724" face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 8:49 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3725" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3726" clear="none"></font></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3727" clear="none"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3728" clear="none"> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3734">Hank,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3736">Good thinking, looking at the original wires. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3738">Were you basing calculations on a marine wire gauge chart? They are a lot more liberal.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3740">I believe the kort nozzles put more load on your motor, in case that has anything to do</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3742">with performance.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3744">Alan</span></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3864" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr"><span id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3746"></span><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3747" clear="none"></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3749" clear="none"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3750" clear="none"></div><div id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3863" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; 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font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br id="yiv0157916956yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466634327945_3773" clear="none"></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Hi Alan,</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; display: block; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" dir="ltr">I rearranged my electrical system to 48 volts and my motors are now running in the sweet spot for amperage 12.5 each. 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