<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div><span>Alan,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465950386448_5494" dir="ltr">I think actually, I will extend my bottom vents so the air does not spill out of the higher tank. I want to try simple solutions first. Thanks' for the input, it helps.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465950386448_5494" dir="ltr">Hank</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:34 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9920787990"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3634"><span id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3669">Hank,</span></div><span id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3635"></span><div id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3670">If you <span id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3672">want to go with independent valves.</span>Vance has a good design for </div><div id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3679">pneumatically operated top hat valves <span id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3689">that he handed out drawings for </span></div><div id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3701"><span>at the Islamorada conference. </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3690"><span id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3691">Alan</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3673"><span id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3687"></span><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv9920787990qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3561"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv9920787990yahoo_quoted" id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3711" style="display:block;"> <div id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3710" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3709" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv9920787990yqt1519103158" id="yiv9920787990yqt72455"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3708"> <font id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3707" face="Arial" size="2"> </font><hr id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3716" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:20 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Dive report<br clear="none"> </div> <div class="yiv9920787990y_msg_container" id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3719"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv9920787990"><div id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3718"><div id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465942940862_3717" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465934153015_2634">First time ever ( I think) that I was able to dive on the first test trip. I had to pull the sub out of the water onto the ramp to remove my new weight from the front. Then add 4 big rocks from shore in the back end, and off I went. The Perry thrusters work okay but one is making noise in reverse, it is the one that has the original spring seal. I will put the new cartridge seal in it now. Amazingly they only draw 14 amps at full speed and that is for both, maybe my amp meter is wrong. The sub is very slow to react to coarse correction, when travelling strait ahead I can stop one motor and it keeps going strait for a long way, I have to reverse one motor while underway to turn. I should have mounted them in the back on an angle, I did testing last year and the worked well. Having them strait is less responsive. When I launch the sub it sits nice and level and higher as expected, the sub is very stable. BUTTTT when I start to dive the sub lists bad to one side, once I am submerged it is fine and I can cruise around like always. When I surface the sub has a bad list again???? I have to get out and shift my weight to the high side and wait for the sub to level out. Once level it stays level and is stable again. Weird!!! I have a common vent for both front and common vent for both rear tanks. I think the air is taking the path of least resistance to one side and when I surface the one side is high and the air spills out the bottom instead of filling the low side tanks. I am not sure how to fix this easily, any ideas are welcome. Worst case, I can add air lines to each side, yuk! there has to be a simple fix.</div><div id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465934153015_2634">I guess lengthening the pipes under the tanks would help, the air would have to go deeper forcing it to the opposite side.</div><div id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465934153015_2634">I met some nice people and had a nice visit. My trailer handles the weight okay but my truck feels it. Might have to get a kick ASS truck like Tim has with a nice rattling diesel. All and all a good first dive.</div><div id="yiv9920787990yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465934153015_2634">Hank</div></div></div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div><br><div class="yqt1519103158" id="yqt92209">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>