<div dir="ltr"><div>Scott do a search on ebay MINN KOTA TRAXXIS TROLLING MOTOR MAIN CONTROL BOARD PN# 2184017 OR 2184027 . These are for sell every day.</div><div><br></div><div>Rocker switch is normally used when you are using a reversing contactor to change the polarity to the DC motor. If you are going to use a motor controller like shown above, then you would only use the potentiometer on each controller or a joy stick replacing the pot for a PLC interfacing between the joystick and motor controller to change direction. May you could the switch for some other function on the boat.</div><div><br></div><div>Cliff</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Scott Waters via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div>Do you have a link to where to buy them? Can I still use my rocker switch that I am currnetly using (forward/reverse).</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Scott Waters</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="color:rgb(87,87,87);font-size:85%">Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone</div></div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br>Date: 05/19/2016 9:59 AM (GMT-06:00) <br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers <br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>Scott. I would try one of the MC 101 motor controllers for each vertical thruster. They should work well for this application. The motor controller has a soft start which should solve the fuse blowing. You don't need a reversing contactor with these controllers. When the pot is near the center of its taper (2.5vdc) the motor to the thruster (10AWG) are also connected with 1/4" spade connectors. </div><div><br></div><div>Cliff</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 7:53 AM, via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">Alec,<br>
<br>
I am pretty sure that is correct. The side thrusters are 14.5 amp 36V and I believe 1/3 horse and the rear thruster is 74 amp 36 volt and 3 horse. I may have to take them apart to look at the plates on them again. The problem I am having is the spike from on/off in either forward or reverse frequently pops the fuse. Is a motor controller the best way to fix this or is there a better way such as a capacitor? DC electrical motors and engineering are my two weak subjects in submarines.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
Scott Waters<br>
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> -------Original Message-------<br>
> From: Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers<br>
> Sent: May 18 '16 20:35<br>
><br>
> Scott are you sure those motors only pull 15 amps? It seems very<br>
> little for a stonking big piece of hardware like that, but maybe the<br>
> motor inside the can is smaller that one would expect. Consider the<br>
> 101's also run at 36 volts but pull three times the current. Anyway if<br>
> the current draw is correct you would have no problem running them off<br>
> the standard MK controller. You could even run both of them off a<br>
> single controller, although you would need some switches or relays to<br>
> reverse them independently. But the MK controllers are cheap, so maybe<br>
> just provide each thruster its own speed control.<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Alec<br>
><br>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles<br>
> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Scott,<br>
> > thinking more about it. That Kelly controller requires a separate<br>
> > reverse contactor & reverse switch.<br>
> > (they sell them)<br>
> > Also you need to buy their connectors to connect to the computer to<br>
> > program it. The wiring diagram<br>
> > is for a key start, which is a solenoid switch, so you have to work<br>
> > out how to wire it differently if<br>
> > you don't want a key start.<br>
> > You sound like you are within the parameters of a MK 101 motor<br>
> > controller. I am not familiar<br>
> > with it but Cliff & Alec are. I believe you can just plug in the<br>
> > right joystick with spring to centre<br>
> > & get forward & backward on that same axis. The MK sounds like it<br>
> > would be a lot simpler to set up.<br>
> > Alan<br>
> ><br>
> > -------------------------<br>
> > FROM: Scott Waters via Personal_Submersibles<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> > TO: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> > SENT: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:08 AM<br>
> ><br>
> > SUBJECT: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers<br>
> ><br>
> > No, they are Kitteredge originals<br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> > Scott Waters<br>
> ><br>
> > Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone<br>
> ><br>
> > -------- Original message --------<br>
> > From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> > Date: 05/18/2016 3:53 PM (GMT-06:00)<br>
> > To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers<br>
> ><br>
> > Scott,<br>
> > are they Minn kota motors?<br>
> > Alan<br>
> ><br>
> > -------------------------<br>
> > FROM: via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
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> > <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> > SENT: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:29 AM<br>
> > SUBJECT: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks Alan<br>
> ><br>
> > -Scott Waters<br>
> ><br>
> >> -------Original Message-------<br>
> >> From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> >> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers<br>
> >> Sent: May 18 '16 13:45<br>
> >><br>
> >> Scott,<br>
> >> I would say something like this item.<br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> <a href="http://kellycontroller.com/kds36100e100a24v-36v-mini-brushed-controller-p-270.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://kellycontroller.com/kds36100e100a24v-36v-mini-brushed-controller-p-270.html</a><br>
> >> Kelly will give you advice on choosing a suitable controller &<br>
> > they<br>
> >> normally respond the<br>
> >> same day. They say the controller should be 2-3 x the power of<br>
> > the<br>
> >> motor.<br>
> >> When I bought my Brushless motor controller I found I couldn't<br>
> >> reverse off a joy stick.<br>
> >> They had a joystick port but just for forward control. I was<br>
> > required<br>
> >> to pay more to get the same<br>
> >> unit programmed to do this. It is a bit ambiguous how they word<br>
> > this<br>
> >> option in the manual.<br>
> >> I saw those Pisces subs on Oahu a couple of years back as has<br>
> > David<br>
> >> C. They were having<br>
> >> funding problems at the time. There are normally turtles in the<br>
> > water<br>
> >> by the wharf & a hole off<br>
> >> to the left that has some resident reef sharks. The guys will<br>
> > point it<br>
> >> out.<br>
> >> Cheers Alan<br>
> >><br>
> >> -------------------------<br>
> >> FROM: via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> >> TO: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> >> SENT: Thursday, May 19, 2016 5:42 AM<br>
> >> SUBJECT: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers<br>
> ><br>
> >><br>
> >> I am looking for a motor controller for my two side thrusters. I<br>
> >> currently have it on a off/on switch and it blows fuses from the<br>
> >> spike. I have a variable controller for my rear thruster that<br>
> > works<br>
> >> well. The motors are 14.5 amp each and are 36 volt.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thank you,<br>
> >> Scott Waters<br>
> >><br>
> >>> -------Original Message-------<br>
> >>> From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> >>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>
> >>> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers<br>
> >>> Sent: Apr 29 '16 15:34<br>
> >><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Alec,<br>
> >>> one thing that wasn't obvious with my KBS mini controller<br>
> > purchase<br>
> >>> was that if you want to run forward / reverse off one axis of a<br>
> >>> joystick,<br>
> >>> you have to specify this option. It costs you an extra $26- &<br>
> > is a<br>
> >>> software change they make. They call this an electric boat<br>
> > function.<br>
> >>> Alan<br>
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