<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div><span>Steve,</span></div><div><span>Good points, I think I will make my own pump. I can </span>make the pump faster than a hydraulic pump by using a larger displacement plunger but not so large that it is hard to operate. </div><div>Hank</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, April 7, 2016 7:36 PM, Stephen Fordyce via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2370265909"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Hank,</div><div>I reckon a hydraulic bottle or lever jack is something to start with, and you'll struggle to get a hand pump that will do the sort of pressures you want (ie. most applications for air are too low pressure, for hydraulics are higher pressure, and not heaps in between).</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>But then the capacity of the hydraulic hand pump will be tiny and as was mentioned, it's steel. Might still be a good starting point for freshwater use regardless, or to reverse engineer and make a stainless one.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Here's a thought experiment that may be useful:</div><div>If you have 1L of water that you want to move from inside the sub (1atm) to outside (31atm at 300m water depth), that's equivalent in required energy to pulling up a 1L bucket from a 300m deep well. That's quite a bit of manual effort just for 1L. If it's 10L, well, screw doing that manually I say :)</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Steve</div></div><div class="yiv2370265909gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv2370265909gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 11:16 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv2370265909gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv2370265909yqt5741131507" id="yiv2370265909yqt85633"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><div><span>Alan,</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>I need full depth pressure rating so I can sink fast without thrusters then pump out some water at depth to go </span>neutral. I can't wast air like Gamma because I have no onboard compressor. </div><span class="yiv2370265909HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"></font></span><div dir="ltr">Hank</div><div><div class="yiv2370265909h5"> <div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Thursday, April 7, 2016 5:42 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><div><span>Hank,</span></div><div><span>why not use an electric pump used on boats & have valves to operate</span></div><div><span>various other functions. They are reasonably small, 12V & built for marine conditions.</span></div><div><span>Can't recall what psi they go up to, but saw some rated 130 psi.</span></div><div><span>Cheers Alan</span></div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> </font><hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 8, 2016 11:18 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hand pump<br clear="none"> </div> <div><br clear="none"><div><div><div dir="ltr">I use these at work sometimes:</div>
<div dir="ltr"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.enerpac.com/en-us/industrial-tools/hydraulic-pumps-and-valves/hydraulic-manual-pumps-0">http://www.enerpac.com/en-us/industrial-tools/hydraulic-pumps-and-valves/hydraulic-manual-pumps-0</a></div>
<div dir="ltr">Don't know what they cost though.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Sean<br clear="none">
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<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>On April 7, 2016 5:03:15 PM MDT, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;">
<div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><div>Hi All,</div><div dir="ltr">I am looking for a hand pump to remove water from my trim tank. It will work like a DW. I will empty the air out of the mbt and then flood a small plastic tank inside the sub. Any ideas?</div><div dir="ltr">Hank</div></div></div><div style="margin-top:2.5em;margin-bottom:1em;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;"></div><pre></pre><hr><br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></blockquote></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">
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