<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div>I was thinking 5 litres max, it is a submarine not a formula one car.  I could add a fake foil on top lol. Haha </div></td></tr></table>            <div id="_origMsg_">
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                            Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>;                            <br>
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                            Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hand pump                            <br>
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                                        <td valign="top"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3362"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3361">Sounds a dangerous ploy Hank.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3364"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3363">If you had 50 liters of water to pump out, making you 50kg heavy (110 lb.)</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3458"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3608">you might have trouble stopping.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3606"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3607">If you had two vertical thrusters with 50lb thrust each you would get the same</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3631"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3728">speed. At
 1mph would take 34 minutes to get to your 3000ft max depth or </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3727"><span>10 minutes at 3 mph.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3726"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3725">Maybe add another battery? It would be a lot of work hand pumping out the water</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3724"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3723">against 1500psi external water pressure at your max depth.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>Or maybe a drop weight full of rocks.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>Cheers Alan</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3439"><span></span><br clear="none"></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3365"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3407" style="display:block;">  <div
 id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3406" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3405" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yqt1595933867" id="yqt62791"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3414"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3440" face="Arial" size="2"> </font><hr id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3655" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 8, 2016 1:16 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span
 style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hand pump<br clear="none">  </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3404"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv2345495746"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3403"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3402" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3511"><span>Alan,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3401"><span>I need full depth pressure rating so I can sink fast without thrusters then pump out some water at depth to go </span>neutral.   I can't wast air like Gamma because I have no onboard compressor.   </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3588">Hank</div> <div class="yiv2345495746qtdSeparateBR"
 id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3450"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv2345495746yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3413" style="display:block;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3412" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3411" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv2345495746yqt5516979528" id="yiv2345495746yqt13015"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3449"><font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3448" face="Arial" size="2"> On Thursday, April 7, 2016 5:42 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div>  <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv2345495746y_msg_container"
 id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3410"><div id="yiv2345495746"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3409"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460078810761_3408" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2884"><span id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2939">Hank,</span></div><div id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2886"><span id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2885">why not use an electric pump used on boats & have valves to operate</span></div><div id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2917"><span id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2916">various other functions. They are reasonably small, 12V & built for marine conditions.</span></div><div id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2918"><span
 id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2920">Can't recall what psi they go up to, but saw some rated 130 psi.</span></div><div id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2945"><span id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2946">Cheers Alan</span></div><div class="yiv2345495746qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2892"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv2345495746yahoo_quoted" id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2834" style="display:block;">  <div id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2833" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2832" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv2345495746yqt8812158979" id="yiv2345495746yqt31466"><div dir="ltr"
 id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2893"> <font id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2894" face="Arial" size="2"> </font><hr id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2895" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 8, 2016 11:18 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hand pump<br clear="none">  </div> <div class="yiv2345495746y_msg_container" id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2831"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv2345495746"><div id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2830"><div dir="ltr"
 id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2947">I use these at work sometimes:</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2948">http://www.enerpac.com/en-us/industrial-tools/hydraulic-pumps-and-valves/hydraulic-manual-pumps-0</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2881">Don't know what they cost though.</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2829">Sean<br clear="none">
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<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv2345495746gmail_quote" id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2949">On April 7, 2016 5:03:15 PM MDT, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<blockquote class="yiv2345495746gmail_quote" id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2951" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;">
<div class="yiv2345495746yqt6199900721" id="yiv2345495746yqt88163"><div id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2950" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460070063375_2664">Hi All,</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460070063375_2664">I am looking for a hand pump to remove water from my trim tank.  It will work like a DW.  I will empty the air out of the mbt and then flood a small plastic tank inside the sub.  Any ideas?</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460070063375_2664">Hank</div></div></div><div style="margin-top:2.5em;margin-bottom:1em;border-bottom-color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;"></div><pre class="yiv2345495746k9mail"></pre><hr id="yiv2345495746yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460072023840_2952"><br
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