<DIV style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif; font-size:10pt;"><DIV>Hank, maybe have big 2" pipes going down below the water line, then the hole would not be affected by wave action.  But I guess wave action is not too big a concern in your lakes ;-)</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Brian C<BR><BR>--- personal_submersibles@psubs.org wrote:<BR><BR>From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sail<BR>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 23:53:41 +0000 (UTC)<BR><BR></DIV><DIV style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><DIV><SPAN>Steve,</SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN>Agreed, I am doing vents at the base, I just have no experience with this.  I was not sure if the vents should have flap type doors or if they should be free flowing in both directions.   How is your sub coming along?</SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN>Hank</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><BR><BR></DIV><DIV style="display: block;"> <DIV style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <DIV style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <DIV dir="ltr"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"> On Sunday, February 28, 2016 4:36 PM, Stephen Fordyce via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<BR></FONT></DIV>  <BR><BR> <DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV dir="ltr">Hi Hank,<BR>
The other consideration that immediately sprang to my mind was that if it's not free flooding, as you submerge it will flood very suddenly as the water pours over the top, and this may mess up your buoyancy control.</DIV>
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