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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Perhaps the next PSubs conference could be there. Hmmm. What do you think, Jim?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Bike hub motor… interesting. It wouldn't be too difficult to make up an oil compensated magnetically coupled thruster.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I like the OrcaSub better. More my style, and local of course. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Tim<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan James via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> November-18-15 7:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Deep Flight Dragon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id=yiv9441232833><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7001"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7000"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7021"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Hi Tim,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7020"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>yes it would be difficult to get in to that in anything other than a mill pond;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7025"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>& I wonder about the stability also; the way the bouyancy seems to be placed low down.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7025"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>From the videos I've seen it looks like the hatch can only be opened from the outside,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7025"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>could be wrong though.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7025"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>The large diameter thrusters look like they could be made from bike hub motors. They<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7025"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>are the right voltage at 40V & are only 1500W. They are direct drive & getting their torque<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7025"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>by using large diameter narrow motors.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7025"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>There are some good photos of the fuselage & hull in the links on this page.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7025"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>He is not scared to think outside the box.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7025"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Love a visit to his workshop. Would fly over for that :)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7025"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.deepflight.com/category/news/"><span style='background:white'>http://www.deepflight.com/category/news/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7025"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Cheers Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_6999"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_6998"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv9441232833yqt16704><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_6997"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br><b>To:</b> 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_8367">Sent:</b> Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:11 PM<br><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7035">Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Deep Flight Dragon</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7026"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv9441232833><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7030"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7029"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7033"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Alan,</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7028"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Hawkes certainly knows how to design cool. From underwater fighter jets to this underwater race car. I noticed that there is no photo showing ingress/egress on the surface. Personal submarines, in my humble opinion, really should have sufficient freeboard (often a conning tower) to allow the pilot to operate the vessel solo (without a launch crew and/or crane). Maybe this one does, the Super Falcon does not.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7177"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>But is sure looks good enough to get the male youth off the jetski and into a submarine. I know, jetskis are a whole lot cheaper than this boat.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7517"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Tim</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7175"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7153"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv9441232833yqt45067><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7156"><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm' id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7155"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7154"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> Personal_Submersibles [<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan James via Personal_Submersibles<br><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_8613">Sent:</b> November-17-15 10:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_8612">Subject:</b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Deep Flight Dragon</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7157"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7159"><div id="yiv9441232833yui_3_16_0_1_1447826716436_2439"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7173"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Here's a link to Hawke's new Deep Flight Dragon.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv9441232833yui_3_16_0_1_1447826716436_2439"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7172"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.deepflight.com/dragon/" target="_blank"><span style='background:white'>Dragon - DeepFlight - Advanced Personal Submarines and Undersea Technology</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv9441232833yui_3_16_0_1_1447826716436_2439"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7168"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>400ft depth capable with composite hull, a 40V system & brushless direct drive<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv9441232833yui_3_16_0_1_1447826716436_2439"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7158"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>motors (like I'm trying to make).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv9441232833yui_3_16_0_1_1447826716436_2439"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7166"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Very similar in appearance to the 2 person sub Phil is involved with.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv9441232833yui_3_16_0_1_1447826716436_2439"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7164"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>There is a specifications link on the page.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv9441232833yui_3_16_0_1_1447826716436_2439"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7163"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv9441232833yqt60160><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7515">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447876288695_7162">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>