<DIV style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif; font-size:10pt;"><DIV>Hank,</DIV><DIV>               How much buoyancy do you actually need ??</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Getting ready for my day of truth !   I've calculated all of my buoyancy figures as best I can, but there will be a fair amount of discrepancies due to the freeform nature of my ferro-cement floating ballast structure and trying to figure out the over all volume of the wire/ cement thickness.  I may indeed need to use some syntactic foam myself to adjust my balance.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Brian <BR><BR>--- personal_submersibles@psubs.org wrote:<BR><BR>From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] syntactic foam<BR>Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 01:38:22 +0000 (UTC)<BR><BR></DIV><DIV style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><DIV><SPAN>Pete,</SPAN></DIV><DIV dir="ltr"><SPAN>I like it, and Mrs Piggy is my wife's second </SPAN>favourite character behind Kermit :-)   I could paint it lime green.  ;-)</DIV><DIV dir="ltr"><BR></DIV><DIV>Hank</DIV>  <BR><DIV><BR><BR></DIV><DIV style="display: block;"> <DIV style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <DIV style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <DIV dir="ltr"> <FONT face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, November 16, 2015 6:25 PM, Pete Niedermayr via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<BR> </FONT> </DIV>  <BR><BR> <DIV>Hank,What are you gonna call her. Miss Piggy ?<BR><BR>Pete<BR>--------------------------------------------<BR>On Mon, 11/16/15, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>> wrote:<BR><BR> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] syntactic foam<BR> To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>><BR> Date: Monday, November 16, 2015, 6:56 PM<BR> <BR> Yes,<BR> trawl floats as Macro spheres.Hank<BR>  <BR> <BR> <BR>      On Monday, November 16, 2015 5:36 PM, Sean T.<BR> Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles<BR> <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>> wrote:<BR>     <BR> <BR>  He might have been on<BR> to something wrt fabricating buoyancy vessels.<BR> Sean<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> On November 16, 2015<BR> 5:19:13 PM MST, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<BR> <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>> wrote:<BR> Just had a<BR> look at Cliff's  PDF on Syntactic foam.   Wow very<BR> nice!  and there is a cost breakdown I see.  It is much<BR> cheaper than buying but still twice the cost of trawl<BR> floats.  Hank<BR>  <BR> <BR> <BR>      On Monday, November<BR> 16, 2015 5:05 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<BR> <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>> wrote:<BR>     <BR> <BR>  Alan,Yes I<BR> could save a few bucks and look good at the same time :-)<BR>  I doubt I could make foam for less than trawl floats but<BR> maybe Cliff has a cost per lb buoyancy.   There is<BR> syntactic foam available that you mix together into your own<BR> mould also.  I am also still woking on the titanium<BR> spheres.   I have time to sort it out.Hank<BR>  <BR> <BR> <BR>      On Monday, November 16, 2015 5:01 PM, Alan<BR> James via Personal_Submersibles<BR> <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>> wrote:<BR>     <BR> <BR>  Hank,you could<BR> go on a diet :)There is<BR> this pdf on making syntactic foam by Cliffhttp://www.psubs.org/design/PDF/SyntacticFoam.pdf<BR> I went to<BR> Alvins 50th Birthday party in New Orleans.They said<BR> the syntactic foam on it cost $3million. That<BR> included all the pressure testingof the<BR> individual segments.Alan<BR>       <BR>  From: hank pronk via<BR> Personal_Submersibles<BR> <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>><BR> <BR> To: Personal<BR> Submersibles General Discussion<BR> <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>> <BR> <BR> Sent: Tuesday,<BR> November 17, 2015 12:39 PM<BR>  Subject:<BR> [PSUBS-MAILIST] syntactic foam<BR>  <BR>  <BR> Yikes!<BR> syntactic foam is costly.  Syntactic foam for 1,000M is 8<BR> dollars per pound buoyancy- trawl floats are 3 dollars per<BR> lb buoyancy.    I need almost 1,000 lbs<BR> buoyancy.Hank<BR> _______________________________________________<BR> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<BR> <A href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</A><BR> <A h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