<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3612"><span>James,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3507"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3611">you could use this regulator for either air or oil.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3514"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3513">Just make sure there is a long enough tube run from the regulator to the motor,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3508" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3510">so that no oil escapes if it expands too much.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3508" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3649">I haven't got one of these regulators yet; but Cliff is using one.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3508" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3653">Cheers Alan</span></div><br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3616"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3615"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3614"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3613"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 23, 2015 8:48 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub hot water bottle.<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3657"><br><div id="yiv6104300342"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3656"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3655"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3654">That's really helpful Alan thanks. I've put this in my saved docs folder. Im still going to use oil for now but then when it gets to winter I might change it. I think I can eek out a tiny bit more power with an air compensated motor, plus I find it quite a hastle filling and emptying the aft motor as its really awkward to get at.</div><div> </div><div>Anyway, thanks again.<br clear="none">James</div></div><div class="yiv6104300342gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3658"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv6104300342gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3663">On 22 September 2015 at 20:43, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv6104300342gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3662"><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv6104300342yqt7573934532" id="yiv6104300342yqt88607"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3661"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3660"><div><span>James,</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>have attached a diagram of it, in case it helps.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3659"><span>Alan</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3668"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3667"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"><span> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> </span><span><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:53 AM<br clear="none"> </span><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub hot water bottle.<br clear="none"> </font> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3666"><div class="yiv6104300342h5" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3665"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3664"><br clear="none"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3672"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3671"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3670"><div>Hi Alan,</div><div>I was just looking at that regulator. It has a max inlet pressure of 20 bar. </div><div> </div><div>Unless im missing something isn't a normal scuba regulator a better option?</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443032452272_3669"> </div><div>James</div></div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div><div><br clear="none"><div>On 22 September 2015 at 09:53, James Frankland <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com">jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Alan,</div><div> </div><div>Interesting idea. Looks good. I might put that on my list of winter modifications.</div><div> </div><div>Agree, the water bottle looks a bit amateur, but I think it will be ok and i'll hide it out of the way. </div><span><font color="#888888"></font></span><div> </div><div>James</div></div><div><div><div><br clear="none"><div>On 21 September 2015 at 21:05, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><div><span>James,</span></div><div><span>Cliff is using this regulator as a compensating device.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://ph.parker.com/us/en/stainless-steel-pressure-regulator-pr354-pr364-series-miniature">http://ph.parker.com/us/en/stainless-steel-pressure-regulator-pr354-pr364-series-miniature</a><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr">I intend to use it also. You attach it to your air line & dial in your required overpressure.</div><div dir="ltr">It has a hole in the handle spindle that enables the regulator to keep the</div><div dir="ltr">set pressure above ambient & also exhaust any over pressure as you ascend.</div><div dir="ltr">The idea is to mount it with the handwheel facing down to avoid any water getting in the system,</div><div dir="ltr">& additionally as a caution run a tube down off it.</div><div dir="ltr">You can either fill your motor with oil; in which case any oil expansion can run up the length of</div><div dir="ltr">tubing from the regulator to the motor, or just air compensate.</div><div dir="ltr">Untried apart from one dive by Cliff.</div><div dir="ltr">Looks more proffesional than a hot water bottle:)</div><div dir="ltr">Cheers Alan</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><span><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> </span><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 22, 2015 1:31 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub hot water bottle.<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div><div><div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>This is my new bladder for the aft motor. The old one was relying on the fuel bulb to act as the bladder, but I had the should provide a much better bladder.</div><div><br clear="none">The small wheelbarrow inner tube was an alternative idea. </div><div> </div><div>Regards</div><div>James<img width="490" height="368" style="width:50%;max-height:300px;max-width:399px;" data-id="e84cb7fc-3630-9b3e-b78c-50dd5f751885"><br clear="none"></div></div></div><br clear="none"></div></div><span>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span></div> </div> </div> </div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">
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