<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439563064794_7905"><span>A good diver friend told me </span>carry stories about O2, that is why I still have an O2 bottle with the regulator right on the tank.  I have a second tank for back up.   I want to move the supply outside for more volume, but have been to nervouse about doing it wrong.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439563064794_7904">Hank</div>  <br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Friday, August 14, 2015 8:16 AM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9382646668"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Brian,</div><div> </div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com">jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com</a></div><div> </div><div>Also, I agree with Alec.  He pointed me to that book some years ago and after reading it, I have a great deal of respect for high pressure O2.</div><div> </div><div>Regards</div><div>James</div></div><div class="yiv9382646668gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv9382646668gmail_quote">On 14 August 2015 at 14:47, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv9382646668gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv9382646668yqt4136334466" id="yiv9382646668yqt55439"><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><font size="2">James,  What is your email address?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Brian<br clear="none"></font><br clear="none">--- <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">From: James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><span><br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] penetration schedule<br clear="none"></span>Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:36:21 +0100<span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span><div dir="ltr"><div>Brian,</div><div><br clear="none">The K boats have a 1.25" bronze fitting that passes through a SS through hull.   You can remove it for cleaning.</div><div> </div><div>Contact me off list and I can send you a dwg.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Regards</div><div>James</div></div><div><div class="yiv9382646668h5"><div><br clear="none"><div>On 14 August 2015 at 04:58, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;"><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div>Hank,</div><div>             Can I put a bronze bushing in a ss coupling, if that is necessary for the O2?   Does the O2 need to not go through stainless? </div><div> </div><div>  I had a bad experience connecting stainless nipples into a stainless 90,  it galled so bad that I ruined the nipple getting it out of there. Maybe I just need to use more Teflon tape.</div><div> </div><div>brian</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">--- <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">From: Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><span><br clear="none">To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] penetration schedule<br clear="none"></span>Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:46:45 -0700<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div><div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div>Hank,</div><div>             It seems to me that it's easier to weld in couplings rather than nipples, I suppose it's just preference.   I sort of have a trim tank already with my forward hard ballast tank, I'm just not sure at this point whether or not that will be enough control.  A way to deal with varying loads is probably something I need to address, but I don't want to give up valuable cabin space for it.   </div><div> </div><div>Brian<br clear="none"><br clear="none">--- <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] penetration schedule<br clear="none">Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:23:16 +0000 (UTC)<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><div><span>Brian,</span></div><div><span>I would add a few nipples and cap them off, you will want them down the road.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>A trim tank may be a good idea for such a heavy sub, unless you have real powerful vertical thrusters.  I find when I take a passenger, even my daughter Roman who is light as a feather, I am always quite over weight.  That is no problem at all in a Gamma size sub because the vertical thrusters have enough jam to stop the sub hitting bottom.  A trim tank would be good to keep you closer to ideal weight, or have lots of small weights to take out.  I foolishly made two rather heavy lead weights.   </span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>Are you running your O2 through a ss nipple, is that okay, I am planning to do that for external O2.  I remember talk about the K subs needing a Bronze fitting or something like that.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>Hank</span></div>  <br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Thursday, August 13, 2015 11:52 AM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div>  <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div>Hank,</div><div>            Here are all my penetrations:</div><div> </div><div>Front hard ballast tank</div><div> 1.   flood valve -  1/2" ss rod thru hull </div><div> 2.   vent valve</div><div> 3.  air inject    -  ss coupling</div><div> </div><div>Main ballast tank (soft)</div><div> 1. flood valve  - ss 1/2" rod thru hull</div><div> 2. air inject</div><div> </div><div>mechanical penetrations:</div><div>  1.  front flaps       - ss 1/2" rod thru hull  (all)</div><div>  2. back flaps</div><div>  3. motor turning   ( steering )</div><div> </div><div>Breathing Oxygen  -  3/4" coupling  or smaller  ( will bush)</div><div> </div><div>Flood Valve  - 1 1/2"  - ss coupling  ( near bottom)</div><div> </div><div>main ballast HP air in   - </div><div>  #1 - 3/4"  ss coupling</div><div>  #2 - 3/4"     ( will have bushings to 1/2" or smaller)</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Gauges</div><div>  1.  Temperature  - 1/2"   ss coupling</div><div>   2.  Pressure -    1/2"</div><div> </div><div>Release buoy </div><div>  1.  1/2" SS rod thru hull</div><div> </div><div>Equalizing valve  </div><div>  1.  3/4" coupling</div><div> </div><div>Drop weight</div><div>   1.  7/8" ss rod thu hull</div><div> </div><div>Hatch dog thu hull</div><div> 1.  7/8" ss rod</div><div> </div><div> Is there anything that I obviously forgot ??      All my electrical will be going through a separate viewport fitting.</div><div> </div><div>So far I have the front trim, hatch , but no air yet.</div><div> </div><div>Not sure if I want to have a small trim tank in the main cabin or not.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Brian</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div></div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>  </div> </div>  </div></div>_______________________________________________
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