<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_57601"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_57603">Cliff,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_57601" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_57607">I was thinking of fitting the light in to a bowl shaped</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_57601" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58078">recess in the fairing / ballast tank, whereas you were proposing</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_57601" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58085">cutting a hole out & fitting it in. In hindsight your idea is better</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_57601" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58087">because my idea would inhibit the heat dispersion due to the fiberglass</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_57601" dir="ltr"><span>surrounding the light fitting.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_57601" dir="ltr"><span>Alan</span></div><br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58097"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58096"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58095"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58105"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58099"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, July 25, 2015 8:43 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] LED Lights<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58107"><br><div id="yiv8399643264"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58111"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58110"><div>Alan, I am visual kind of guy. Can send me sketch of what you are describing and we can talk.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58109">Cliff</div></div><div class="yiv8399643264gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58115"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8399643264gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58114">On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv8399643264gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437767567282_58113"><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv8399643264yqt8794210433" id="yiv8399643264yqt62382"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><div><span>Looks a good solid light Cliff.</span></div><div><span>On looking at the perpendicular cable entry, I was thinking we</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>need a back entry for the purposes of mounting in to a housing</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>in the fairing as you have requested in your list.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>I am looking at mounting in to ballast tanks so will create the shape </span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>of the light in the molding to receive it. If there was a threaded</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>extension on the back of the light it could slot through a hole & be secured</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>with a nut. This would make it easier to seal off the ballast tanks in</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>my situation.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>Alan</span></div><br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, July 25, 2015 1:55 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] LED Lights<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div><br clear="none"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Ken, if you go to Youtube and do a search on <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/D7VnwODU7vk">https://youtu.be/D7VnwODU7vk</a>, or 5000 Lumen Bridgelux Vero 18 LED light, you will see a short video of the light.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Cliff</div></div><div><br clear="none"><div>On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Ken Martindale via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;"><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div><div lang="EN-US"><div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);">Cliff,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);">How do I look at them??<u></u><u></u></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);">Ken<u></u><u></u></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Clifford Redus via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2015 4:18 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] LED Lights<u></u><u></u></span></div><div><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div>Now that Jon has the forum site set up for the LED light project, my suggestion is to move the discussion to the forum site called out in Jon's email. BTW, I have uploaded to the site the wiring diagram and housing drawings for the 5000 Lumen light that was designed by the ME students I was mentoring last year.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div>Cliff<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div>On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Ken Martindale via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-right:0in;margin-left:4.8pt;"><div><div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);">Doing the dimming electrically is easy but the problem is the extra wiring and where do you mount the Potentiometer?</span><u></u><u></u></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);">We can include the wires in the cable for use as an option this also complicates the cabling. Instead of two wires we would require 4 wires.</span><u></u><u></u></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);">Personally I also like the dimming since it will extend the time you can use it out of the water. Anybody also like or dislike? Cliff would like to delete.</span><u></u><u></u></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);">You guys be sure to keep reading the spec. it will have almost daily updates for a while.</span><u></u><u></u></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);">Ken</span><u></u><u></u></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:currentColor;padding:3pt 0in 0in;"><div><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan James via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2015 3:31 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] LED Lights</span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div> <u></u><u></u></div><div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Cliff, Ken,</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">I like the dimming option. The 10,000 lumens may be too much light in</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">some low visibility conditions where there is a lot of back scatter.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">The 5,000 lumen option may act like a fog light.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Also I am thinking of having lights mounted to the side which may not</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">need to be as intense.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Depth rating.... looking at the drawings of various 10,000 meter light housings,</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">it seems simple to achieve a reasonable depth without much more cost.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Potting the board..... I would be careful about what was potted in case some of the</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">components needed to get rid of a bit of heat.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Mechanical housing..... with you on that one Cliff. Like the idea of the recessed light.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Alan</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div><div><div><div align="center" style="background:white;text-align:center;"><span style="color:black;"></span><hr align="center" width="100%" size="1"></div><div style="background:white;"><b><span style="color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="color:black;"> Clifford Redus via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 24, 2015 4:06 AM<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] LED Lights</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div><div><div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Ken, good first pass at the specs. Below are comments. BTW, I will post these here as I have not been able to get the activation code back yet on registering at the forum.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Item 2.1 DC Voltage. If it were me, I would stick with nominal battery bank voltages of 24 and 36 VDC. When I switch to MK 101 thrusters, I dropped my main battery bank voltage to 36VDC my instrumentation bus is 24VDC. Would need a single fuse holder to accept fuses to handle different nominal voltages.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Item 4.0 Depth Requirement. In the spirit of keeping cost down, I think 500 meters (1640 ft) would be more than enough. I know Scott is designing a deep diving boat but is any one else shooting for more than 500m?</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">6.0 Dimming. I would omit the ability to dim the light. Yes I know it is easy from an electrical point of view but it forces us to go with more pins on the subsea connector. I am thinking on installing multiple lighs so I could just control on/off for each light. I could go either way on this but in the spirit of KISS, I vote to omit dimming.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">8.3 Ports I would change plastic to acrylic. I don't think we will end up here but if we do, we can use PVHO flat view port calcs to size the acrylic lens.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">9.0 Printed Wiring Boards. I really like the way the Minn-Kota motor controller PWBs are potted. Rather than using the spray on hydrophobic coatings, to me we should pot the board (accept for access to fuse). Therefore suggest changing the word coated to potted.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">11.0 Mechanical Housing. I suggest. The LED panel light and PCB shall be contained in a single 1-atm flange mounted cylindrical housing with a low profile that can be recessed in a FRP shell with attachment screws from the rear of the flange. The housing should contain a single 29 LED Array rated at 10,000 lumens with a rated power of 91-140 lumens/W (109-71W). Mounting holes will be provided for an optional SS yoke style support bracket. </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Material: Hard anodized 6061-T6 or 7071-T6 TBD (I have a grey beard machinist friend that owns a machine shop. He loves 7071-T6 as it is a dream to machine and stronger than 6061-T6.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Ken Martindale via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></div><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor rgb(204,204,204);margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;"><div><div style="background:white;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div><div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);">Cost is critical. The electronics should be a small part of the cost. The housing might be the most expensive.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);">Hope you guys are reading the specification.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);">Ken</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><b><span style="color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="color:black;"> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Clifford Redus via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2015 10:18 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] LED Lights</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Jon, thanks for setting up the forum. I am assuming we can post files as well.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> I agree low cost is important but having a functioning light is as well. OTS LED utility lights like that one you noted are not an option unless they can be potted. To me the best way to keep the cost low, is to publish construction drawings of a 1-atm DIY housing that a psubber could machine or have machined by a friend, and publish a design of a PCB that could be easily fabricated using one of the PCB online sites like ExperessPCB <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.expresspcb.com/">www.expresspcb.com</a> and DIY populate the board. As a group, we design and build a prototype that I can test in my shop. If it works as designed, then we post to the psubs site a report, that includes the design drawings, circuit diagram, parts list and test results. </span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Getting a consciences on the design spec is the first step. </span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Cliff</span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor rgb(204,204,204);margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;"><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"><br clear="none">My three words of advice...cost, cost, cost.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">One measure of a success for this project will be how many people actually build/use it. If it costs more to manufacture than just purchasing something like <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/Lights/DC-Mobile-Equipment-Lights/12-24-VDC-3120-LUMEN-16-LED-UTILITY-FLOOD-LIGHT-12-999-B.axd">http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/Lights/DC-Mobile-Equipment-Lights/12-24-VDC-3120-LUMEN-16-LED-UTILITY-FLOOD-LIGHT-12-999-B.axd</a> off the shelf then it's real world application by psubbers may be limited.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Over-spec'ing the design above requirements for typical recreational operations (ie 10,000 psi capability) is likely going to drive up the cost. 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