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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Cliff,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes I have main contactors and switchable fuse/breakers but when some numpty leaves the switch on it is expensive.  Not only that but the BMS boards feed off each other and need power. The other is the usual having batteries in parallel and them talking to each other.  If you are constantly using the batteries and recharging them then only half the issues but these things have a tendency of sitting around during the winter etc.  Hugh <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Clifford Redus via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 19 July 2015 11:39 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hey Hugh<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Wow, she looks great!  I know it has been a frustrating hall to get to this point.  Hang in there.  Keep dreaming about that first real dive!  At some point it would be helpful to us that planning on converting to Lithium Batteries at some point , to hear your lessons learned on the batteries and BMS to keep us from running into some of the issues.  I assume you have an main contactor that electrical isolates the main battery bank from all boat systems.  With this contactor open, you still are getting draw offs?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cliff<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Brian,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>No.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=513 height=200 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01D0C223.ECB679D0"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This one.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hugh</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:currentColor currentColor'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 18 July 2015 4:58 p.m.<br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hey Hugh</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Is this the sub-con in the photos on the psubs web site?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Brian<br><br>--- <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:<br><br>From: Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: "'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hey Hugh<br>Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 10:03:25 +1200</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>About 98% but having a hell of a time with batteries and battery management systems.  Trying to find draw-offs when not in use.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just had to pull out the port engine because of a battery failure.  With various sparkies playing with it, it is not one persons responsibility to turn off the power and maintain the charge on the batteries with the result that we get battery meltdown.  We have to have an idiot proof system.  Gets a bit depressing.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hugh</span><o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Personal_Submersibles [<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 18 July 2015 9:45 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> PSubs <br><b>Subject:</b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hey Hugh</span><o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hey Hugh,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>                      Aren't you finished with that boat of yours yet ??</span><o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Brian </span>_______________________________________________ Personal_Submersibles mailing list <a href="http://eonapps/ft/wm/page/compose?send_to=Personal_Submersibles%40psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a> <a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>