<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2752"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2751">Does anyone (Sean) have the material specifications in their</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2750"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2955">pressure programs for the soft pvc that we would be using in</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2750"><span>our flexible compensation hoses?</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2750"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2954">The nearest I had was nylon, & that had a crush depth of 8,000ft</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2750"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2953">for a 1 meter long tube, 10mm diameter & 2mm wall thickness.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2750"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2952">I was thinking of using oil filled light housings with the wiring</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2750"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2976">running through flexible hose as compensation, but are having second thoughts.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2750"><span>Alan</span></div><br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2945"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2944"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2950"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_3012"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2951"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:11 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Dive report: Snoopy at Seneca<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2943"><br><div id="yiv5608647740"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2949"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433884861179_2948">I have always been a fan of oil compensation at higher than ambient pressure, for a variety of reasons. The only real downside is the environmental impact of potentially losing oil to the surrounding water in the event of a leak, but that impact can be mitigated with oil selection. Positive pressure allows you to compensate for volumetric changes in your compensated volumes due to the exterior pressure, as well as for thermal expansion of the oil, and if you have any leakage at all, you leak oil out, rather than water in, which can be an expensive lesson. Additionally, if you provide the bias with something like a spring loaded cylinder or elastomeric bladder, you can instrument its displacement for accurate monitoring of demanded compensation volume, and potentially detect leaks well in advance of when they actually become a problem. Ambient-only compensation has the disadvantage of not compensating for boundary-layer viscosity effects on rotating shafts,!
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differences (gravity induced exchange and/or centripetally accelerated fluid) and other small but cumulative effects that can contribute to water ingress. </div>
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