<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3045"><span>Antoine,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3047"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3046">I had another look at this & it says that the P79 is an in hull transducer that shoots through</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3048"><span>fibreglass & no other material.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3049"><span>Alan</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3049"><span><br></span></div><br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3052"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3051"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3050"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3108"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3107"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Alan via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 2, 2015 7:15 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: DOSITS: Forward Looking Sonar<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3055"><br><div id="yiv7391327419"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3054"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3053">Hi Antoine,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3106">so you just have the model with the depth sounder?</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3104">It says in the small print....<span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3105">Note that depth, temperature, and speed are referenced in most of these diagrams. If speed or temperature is not included in your transducer, these color wires may not be present inside the cable.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3103"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3102">Would you not just ignore the pin out for the other sensors. Example diagram linked to below.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3056"><span style="">only use the </span><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3109">pin out for the depth sounder.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3101"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.airmartechnology.com/uploads/wiringdiagrams/91_849.pdf" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3100">http://www.airmartechnology.com/uploads/wiringdiagrams/91_849.pdf</a></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3099">If this is not helpful post again.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3098">Alan</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3057"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv7391327419yqt9781113323" id="yiv7391327419yqt41144"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3097"><br clear="none">On 2/06/2015, at 6:01 pm, Antoine Delafargue via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3060"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3059">Thanks Alan<div>But there are only 3 connectors on my sensor and the diagrams show five for these...</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3058">Regards</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3061">Antoine<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Thursday, May 28, 2015, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv7391327419gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3068"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3067"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3066"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3065"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3064"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3063"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3062"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3095">Antoine,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3094"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3093">airmar produce most of the transducers for lowrance.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3070"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3069">Below is an airmar link to several common wiring diagrams.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3073"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3072"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://faq.airmar.com/index.php?sid=2361886&lang=en&action=artikel&cat=1&id=240&artlang=en" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3071">Airmar FAQ - Common Wiring Diagrams?</a><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="width:450px;font-family:'Georgia', 'Times', 'Times New Roman', 'serif';margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;background-color:#ffffff;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3079"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="width:450px;height:auto;display:block;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3078"><tbody id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3077"><tr><td colspan="7" rowspan="1" style="height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;border-collapse:collapse;"><div style="min-height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;line-height:0px;"> </div></td></tr><tr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3076"><td colspan="1" rowspan="5" style="width:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1pt;border-collapse:collapse;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3091"><div style="width:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1pt;"> </div></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="5" style="width:14px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:0pt;border-collapse:collapse;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3090"><div style="width:14px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:14pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3092"> </div></td><td colspan="2" rowspan="1" style="height:6px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:0pt;border-collapse:collapse;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3075"><div style="min-height:6px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:6pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3074"> </div></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="5" style="width:20px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:0pt;border-collapse:collapse;"><div style="width:20px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:20pt;"> </div></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="5" width="1" style="width:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1pt;border-collapse:collapse;"><div style="width:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1pt;"> </div></td></tr><tr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3085"><td colspan="2" rowspan="1" style="width:100%;vertical-align:middle;font-family:'Georgia', 'Times', 'Times New Roman', 'serif';" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3084"><div style="line-height:16.5px;background-color:#ffffff;width:414px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3083"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3082"><span></span><span></span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://faq.airmar.com/index.php?sid=2361886&lang=en&action=artikel&cat=1&id=240&artlang=en" style="text-decoration:none;color:#000000;line-height:100%;font-size:18px;display:block;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3081"><span style="margin:0;font-weight:normal;margin-bottom:3px;font-size:18px;line-height:21px;max-height:43px;color:#000000;overflow:hidden;display:inline-block;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3080">Airmar FAQ - Common Wiring Diagrams?</span></a><div style="font-size:13px;line-height:20px;color:#999999;max-height:81px;font-family:'Georgia', 'Times', 'Times New Roman', 'serif';overflow:hidden;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3086">Below is a list of commonly used wiring diagrams for popular fishfinder and ...</div></div></div></td></tr><tr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3089"><td colspan="2" rowspan="1" style="height:6px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:0pt;border-collapse:collapse;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3088"><div style="min-height:6px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:6pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3087"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="vertical-align:middle;font-family:'Arial', 'Helvetica Neue', 'Helvetica', 'sans-serif';"><div style="font-size:0pt;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://faq.airmar.com/index.php?sid=2361886&lang=en&action=artikel&cat=1&id=240&artlang=en" style="color:black;text-decoration:none;"><span style="display:inline-block;line-height:11px;max-width:314px;min-width:254px;overflow:hidden;max-height:13px;"><span style="vertical-align:middle;font-size:9px;line-height:11px;color:#999999;">View on <span style="font-weight:bold;">faq.airmar.com</span></span></span></a></div></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="vertical-align:middle;width:100px;font-family:'Arial', 'Helvetica Neue', 'Helvetica', 'sans-serif';"><div style="max-width:100px;min-width:80px;overflow:hidden;text-align:right;line-height:11px;max-height:13px;font-size:0pt;"><span style="vertical-align:middle;font-size:9px;line-height:11px;color:#999999;">Preview by Yahoo</span></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" rowspan="1" style="height:9px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:0pt;border-collapse:collapse;"><div style="min-height:9px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:9pt;"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="7" rowspan="1" style="height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;border-collapse:collapse;"><div style="min-height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;line-height:0px;"> </div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div dir="ltr">Alan</div><div dir="ltr"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3112"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3111"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3110"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3115"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3114"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3113"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3116"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Antoine Delafargue via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 28, 2015 9:06 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: DOSITS: Forward Looking Sonar<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3117"><br clear="none"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3120"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3119"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3118">Hi Cliff, <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3121">For my Pilot Fish project I ordered a cheap Airmar P79 sensor also with NMEA 183 comms to use as a depth sounder, but I am struggling to find info on the pinout: which cable color is which... did you find info on this?</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3122"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3123">regards</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3124">Antoine</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3125"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3126"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3127"><br clear="none"></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433233046724_3128"><br clear="none"><div>On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div><span></span></div><div></div><div dir="ltr">Alan, I am not sure packaging a fish finder sounder transducer in a 1-atm pod is necessary for 500ft. My guess is most of these are fully potted and cab take the pressure. </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">BTW, I am implementing a Airmar DST800 <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.airmartechnology.com/2009/products/marine-product.asp?prodid=73%C2%A0as">DST800 —Thru-Hull, Smart™ Sensor - Airmar Marine Transducers</a> part of my R300 upgrade. This sensor will give me altitude, speed and water temp. The sensor sends out a NMEA 0183 ASCII sentence string that I will connect via RS232 serial feed into a coprocessor on my PLC. I then can parse the string to get data. I am using the same coprocessor so parse another transducer that gives me roll, pitch and heading. This transducer is packaged in a custom 1-atm anodized aluminum housing.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">I looked at ROV sounders but these are expensive at $1500-$4000 each where these fish finder sounders are cheap. </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Cliff</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div><div><br clear="none">Cliff Redus<br clear="none">Redus Engineering<br clear="none">USA mobile: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">830-931-1280</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">cliffordredus@sbcglobal.com</a> </div></div><br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><span><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> </span><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, May 15, 2015 4:41 AM</font><div><div><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: DOSITS: Forward Looking Sonar<br clear="none"> </div></div> </div><div><div> <div><br clear="none"><div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><div><span>Have just come back from the local boat show after talking to a couple of</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>exhibitors about sonar / depth sounders.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>I am still finding my way here. Was told I could mount a forward looking sonar inside</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>a fiberglass hull & would loose about 15% of my range as apposed to in water mounting.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>They said the depth sounder worked better than the forward looking sonar through fiberglass.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>Why not have a small view port type arrangement in the bottom or up front of the submarine</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>with a fiberglass plate in it. Then glue the transducer to that.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>For a 3" diameter fiberglass plate .55" thick, I get a 4000ft crush depth. Safety factor of 4 for</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>plastics I think, so 500ft capable operating depth.</span></div><div dir="ltr">Quote from installation pdfs below......</div><div dir="ltr">As an alternative to transom mounting, it is possible on many</div><div dir="ltr">fiberglass-hulled boats to glue the transducer on the inside of</div><div dir="ltr">the boat hull. Since fiberglass has similar sonar</div><div dir="ltr">characteristics as water, the sonar signal can pass through</div><div dir="ltr">the boat hull with minimal loss. The hull of the boat must be</div><div dir="ltr">single layer construction (not double-hulled) Also, any air</div><div dir="ltr">trapped in the lamination of the fiberglass would prevent the</div><div dir="ltr">sonar signal from passing through.</div><div dir="ltr">Inside the hull installations require no holes be drilled into the</div><div dir="ltr">boat and through experimentation, high-speed operation</div><div dir="ltr">comparable to transom mounting can be achieved. Two-part</div><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">slow cure epoxy (not included) is required to glue the transducer in place.</div><div dir="ltr">......<strong style="color:rgb(34,34,34);line-height:1.5em;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;">In-hull:</strong><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);line-height:1.5em;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);line-height:1.5em;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;">Installed against the inside of the hull bottom, the in-hull transducer sends its signal through the hull. “Shoot through hull” transducers do not need direct water contact. They’re glued to the inside of the hull with silicone or epoxy. An in-hull transducer is a good choice for a trailered boat, a vessel with a stepped hull, and for other types of high performance hull designs, as there is no drag, hull penetration or potential for fouling. No integrated temperature sensor. Can be installed while boat is in the water. For deadrise angles up to 30 degrees. As with thru-hulls, the selected location should be aft and close to the centerline so that the transducer is in the water at all times.</span></div><div dir="ltr" style="border:0px currentColor;color:rgb(34,34,34);line-height:1.5em;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;vertical-align:baseline;">In-hull transducers need solid fiberglass at the mounting location; no foam or plywood coring material, or air pockets. A typical 600W transducer can transmit through 1/2" to 5/8" (12-16mm) of fiberglass. To install inside a cored hull, find a location with no coring or remove the core material.</div><div dir="ltr" style="border:0px currentColor;color:rgb(34,34,34);line-height:1.5em;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;vertical-align:baseline;">Alan</div><br clear="none"> <div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 11, 2015 5:10 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: DOSITS: Forward Looking Sonar<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div><br clear="none">Looks really nice Hank, but couldn't find a price.<br clear="none">They are marketing to ship owners not recreational boat market.<br clear="none">Had looked at other 3d forward scanners & they are quite a bit more than<br clear="none">the Sinrad 2d.<br clear="none">Alan <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> On 11/05/2015, at 12:26 am, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Alan,<br clear="none">> Check this system out, you probably have seen it. 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