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                            Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>;                            <br>
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                            Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>;                                                                             <br>
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                            Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new sub project                            <br>
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                                        <td valign="top"><div dir="ltr">Sounds good, tiny and light is a major plus - particularly as you have a boat that can get you to a dive site and over the side. <div><br clear="none"></div><div>Alec</div></div><div class="yqt5764250836" id="yqt72829"><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 11:12 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br clear="none">
Alec,<br clear="none">
I am not thinking flyer at all.  The water clarity would not support the speed.  I am thinking of a simple tiny light sub that can launch anywhere even off the deck of my boat.  It is just a though right now.<br clear="none">
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For now I am enjoying my what seems gigantic bow dome.  The visibility is unbelievable, the modification cost and effort has been well worth it.  As a bonus, my payload is back to 500 lbs plus.  I had to fill the sub with steel plates to get it to sink.  :-)<br clear="none">
Hank  --------------------------------------------<br clear="none">
<span class="">On Sun, 5/24/15, Private via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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 Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new sub project<br clear="none">
 To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">
</span> Received: Sunday, May 24, 2015, 10:38 PM<br clear="none">
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 Indeed! Except mine went<br clear="none">
 vertical only for emergency exit rather than as standard<br clear="none">
 procedure.  It was not going to have any freeboard to speak<br clear="none">
 of in vertical mode, so you would climb out in a hurry and<br clear="none">
 watch her sink from under you. The method of going vertical<br clear="none">
 was dropping the emergency weight, which was located at the<br clear="none">
 very front. More than the front actually, it stuck out and<br clear="none">
 constituted your crash bar. The sub was a "flyer",<br clear="none">
 a poor man's Deep Flight. I had her 90% complete when I<br clear="none">
 bought Snoopy, and the flyer project sat untouched for many<br clear="none">
 years while Snoopy took up all my time and served as a<br clear="none">
 classroom. The sub I'm finally finishing up now recycles<br clear="none">
 the flyer hull, but redone to be conventional. Well,<br clear="none">
 conventional in the sense of having ballast tanks and a<br clear="none">
 conning tower - she's actually a pretty bizarre beast as<br clear="none">
 the folks who come to the convention will see! My conclusion<br clear="none">
 was that a flyer must be great fun but requires both<br clear="none">
</span> unusually clear water and a vessel capable of laun!<br clear="none">
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">  ching the sub at the dive site. If I owned a<br clear="none">
 mega yacht and cruised the Galapagos, a flyer would be just<br clear="none">
 the thing. But what I'm aiming for now is radical<br clear="none">
 simplicity, whereas the old one was all touch screens,<br clear="none">
 servos, PLCs, and such.<br clear="none">
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 Best,<br clear="none">
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 Alec<br clear="none">
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 > On May 24, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Jon Wallace<br clear="none">
 via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">
 wrote:<br clear="none">
 ><br clear="none">
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 > Talk to Alec, he was building such a<br clear="none">
 design years ago before he acquired SNOOPY and ultimately<br clear="none">
 decided against it...but I don't recall why.<br clear="none">
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 ><br clear="none">
 >> On 5/24/2015 6:31 PM, hank pronk via<br clear="none">
 Personal_Submersibles wrote:<br clear="none">
 >> Yes,<br clear="none">
 you float it to the dock side, then tip it vertical to get<br clear="none">
 in, close the hatch, tip it horizontal, and your away. <br clear="none">
 Saves building a CT that my 200lb sexy frame can fit into<br clear="none">
 :-)<br clear="none">
 >><br clear="none">
 Hank--------------------------------------------<br clear="none">
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